it could be an homage, but it’s not “nazi style” any more than a toxic chemical label is a Nazi style “Totenkoph”
it needs to have flat tops and bottoms to be “SS style”
Fuck ice, etc.
I don’t see what NS split by a lightning bolt would refer to other than National Socialist - eg literally claiming affiliation/support to the Nazi party.
It is possible its something else and just incredibly bad fortune and an incredibly ignorant person who wouldn’t get that connection is wearing it - but given the context that it’s ICE… I’m leaning to it being a nazi dog whistle to other like-minded ICE officers.
That’s pretty on the nose. I mean they’re not that bright, but still.
Regardless of how bad it is, the lightning bolt is clearly intended as nazi shit.
They’re not good at making swastikas either, but no matter how deformed they still count as nazi shit.
Ah yes, the old hail hortler.
I wish I could still find these as funny as the used to be.
Oh god, those are so funny in a not funny way.
Lol fucking idiots.
I feel like you’re playing exactly into their hands. Make it similar enough that everyone is in no doubt as to what they’re saying, but different enough to give them plausible deniability if it ever got escalated.
Then if they ever get called out on it: “It’s just a joke, calm down. Can’t take a joke?”
Im not playing defence on either side here, this is pure lamentation :
You mean we need to be careful with lightning bolts too now? I used to draw them all the time as a kid. How many more potentially cool things are they going to co-opt and ruin for me?
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They better not fuck with my S
Don’t talk about it like it’s an idle scribble in a copybook, they went to a lot of trouble to make that to put on their uniform. They know what they’re doing. Do not give them a single inch.
Drawing a lightning bolt ✅👍
Joining a fascist secret police group and putting a lightning bolt with fraktur-esque lettering on your uniform ❌👎
In the 90s the “s” symbol was a gay hook up call.
No it wasn’t lol
Gay in the time period. Pointy S was drawn by everyone on everything.
If it was ever a hookup symbol, which i haven’t heard a wit of before this momemt 20+ years later, most of it’s life was lived after escaping containment.
Yeah those are 8s. The S has flat ends
It is the logo scrawled on the helmet of an active paramilitary that is serving our fascist regime. What the fuck else would it be?
Im not saying it isnt. Im saying god damn it cant the rest of us have anything?
That’s literally what a dogwhistle is.
Figuratively literally.
You need a bit of mental gymnastics to go “oh but the style is such and such, therefore it is not nazi sign”.
I know fuck all about nazi styles and to me this looks like a nazi n⚡s, proclaiming that he is a national socialist.
He IS A FUCKING NAZI.
Edit: another point to add. If I was a dumb racist scum turned nazi, since I know fuck all about the ‘original’ nazi styles, most likely I would come up with some shit like this, that delivers the message but is not in the original style.
Remember, ICE agents are not smart or educated people that would know much about original nazi styles.
You need a bit of mental gymnastics to go “oh but the style is such and such, therefore it is not nazi sign”.
“it could be an homage, but it’s not “nazi style” any more than a toxic chemical label is a Nazi style “Totenkoph””
“Fuck ice, etc.”
EDIT: Since these chucklefucks won’t touch the word “socialist” with a barge pole, it’s more likely his initials.
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The full name of the Nazi Party was Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (German for ‘National Socialist German Workers’ Party’).
I know what “Nazi” means dude. There are a zillion things to criticise about these people; rest assured when they put nazi shit on things, it’s more obvious. Criticize and obsess over the right shit. That’s the whole point
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What’s the difference between a nazi sign and a sign that is homage to Nazis?
According to you, one of them is okay, but not the other one?
One is that the sign itself actually resembles a nazi sign, and not other objects, and the other is something that is designed to emulate the ideas of nazi signs, without resembling them.
Both are bad. I don’t feel I have to actually point that out, but here I am. My goal with the comment here is to make you guys perceive reality and not jump at everything you see.
Nah. The time for jumping at nazis with frothed up fury was yesterday. We’re all very very late. Get in there.
What’s the difference between a nazi sign and a sign that is homage to Nazis?
Yeah, that’s a distinction without a difference
the probability of randomly selecting someone with the initials “NS” is 1 in 676, or approximately 0.00148 (0.148%).
Tbf it doesn’t have to be his name, it’s more likely some trump supporter ass brand like “Never Surrender” or something. In fact h/o…
Edit: Well what’d’ya know? This is pretty close.
https://neversurrenderwear.com/collections/hats/products/never-surrender-gothic-off-white
I mean, it’s still at least some trumpy ass shit if not full nazi, but did you expect ICE to be Obama stans just because he deported more people than any other president in history (so far)?
Did you really tell someone else that they need a bit of mental gymnastics to not make an assumption?
Conservatives think Tylenol causes autism… Do you really think they have an eye for brand styles? Come on… Can we stop being intellectually dishonest?
What the fuck do you think N S stands for you absolute Muppet.
Neil Smith? It’s common for things to be marked to differentiate them in groups where the exact same thing is given to a bunch of people.
Really, that’s what you’re gonna go with, his mom tagged his helmet with his initials so he doesn’t lose it at Camp Fascism this winter?
That ICE agents, notorious for hiding their faces and identities, are now leaving clues on their helmets as to who they are for the Scooby gang to solve?
These dudes get boners hurting brown-skinned people in front of their families, they want to look frightening. It’s more than likely some slogan, like NEVER SURRENDER, with a lightning bolt because yeah, he saw it on some Nazi gear and thought it looked tough AF. Oooh, he didn’t flatten the tops and bottoms!! Like he’s effing Michaelangelo or something. Like these dudes are going to draw anything OTHER than lightning bolts, lol.
What a weird hill to stand on. Hey, watcha think about this image I found on Facebook by searching Google for “Never Surrender”.
What do you think these dudes will “never surrender” as they raid minority neighborhoods? Think they mean THE FATHERLAND or something?
The intention is clear
Oh and “NS” like in NSDAP is also a pure coincidence?
These thugs don’t even have any reason to hide their convictions anymore at this point… The US is in dire need of denazification and it should begin with ICE and it’s fascist employees. Prosecute the fuck out of this administration, it’s henchmen and the billionaires that endorsed it.
denazification
you say? I know of a certain European “neighbor” who specializes in those. It’ll only take three days.
Issue is, that European “neighbor” is also in dire need of denazification.
I agree
I think it’s more likely that dude saw it and went “oh man that’s fuckin siiiiiiccccccckkkkkk” probably has skull stickers on his truck too
I want to note that this is exactly what that actual Nazis did when they stole symbolisms from various cultures including the rune ᛋ and of course the swastica. Both of which represent the sun.
Related from my own defunct blog: Skulls in military symbolism are actually not particularly odd, as indicators of toughness and ferocity (and in Navy a nod to the Jolly Roger, which was partly an identifier of the pirate vessel, but also a call to surrender with the promise of quarter…)
Discussing the M&W Are We The Baddies skit and the preponderance of skulls in Waffen SS kitch.
There’s also a symbol they called the black Sun, they were into it for sure
The swastika is one of the oldest, they have ones etched in stone in bulgaria from like 40k years back or something I forget, maybe it was 10k. Also later ones in india and elsewhere.
Related: Why TF is ICE wearing camo if they’re law enforcement?
there’s actually a Wikipedia article about it here
It’s a LARP until it isn’t, and we’re really approaching the point where it isn’t.
Why are they wearing camo in a fucking city?
They couldn’t get solid olive drab with fantastic red arm flair
Why is camo worn in cities in general or why ICE is wearing camo?
Cities aren’t big splotches of gray. Wearing camouflage still provides some benefit when within cities. Also, uniforms are no longer just the pattern, these uniforms would also reduce IR signatures to not be seen as easily by nighht vision equipment.
Why ICE is wearing it? Surplus. The uniforms are easy to get and identify them as some form of federal agent. The alternative is a batch of one colour uniforms which would cost a lot or go plainclothes which I consider to be worse.
Army surplus
Intimidation factor. In addition to militarization of police.
Here’s the thing they are law enforcement in name only…
everything is law enforcement if you can define the law arbitrarily …
I’m starting to wonder if these “ICE” people aren’t just kids who outgrew video games like Call of Duty, but didn’t care to join the army.
or couldn’t pass basic
Gravy Seals.
Nah they didn’t outgrow gaming, they just got tired of being torched by 8 year olds on chat, or picking a genre that was not online gaming. Those 8 year olds should go into comedy, provided they remember to punch up.
Definitely, want to carry a gun but others not so much.
Recruited from the Young Republican cesspool.
Trying to find specific context on this guy, here’s what I got so far: The picture was taken 14. October 2025 “around 11 a.m.” in Chicago, “near 105th Street and Avenue N in the East Side neighborhood”. The rest of the uniform indicates he’s a member of a Special Response Team, whatever that is.
Special Response Team is like a SWAT team. More training, more dangerous missions (usually)
Special Response Team? Sounds like SA (“Sturmabteilung”).
Ah yes, “Nazi Sympathizer”. Makes sense.
National Socialist more likely. Literally referring to the Nationalsozialismus Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP) - the Nazis.
You’re getting the German a bit wrong here though.
It is “Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei”; it’s the adjective here, as in “national socialist German workers party”. “Nationalsozialismus” is the noun, meaning “national socialism”
But, yes, that’s what those two letters plausibly refer to in this context and with this font and symbolism involved.
Thanks, I copied it from Wikipedia but I must have copied it from the wrong context as I copied in two parts.
Gonna be real, I don’t think that’s got anything to do with Nazism at all and isn’t nazi style… Probably a relationship he has or something or a different affiliation.
It’s just a normal lightning bolt. Too pointy.
for the trained eye from germany this certainly refers to NS – National Socialism. also, there are s few ways to depict a lightning bolt with a few simple lines. this variant would be the last choice b/c of its ambiguity.
Ah fair
Gothic gemanic lettering + lighting bolt?
That’s nazi shit.
It’s not Gothic Germanic, and even then, that’s not necessarily nazi either.
Note how the “N” is not the same as the N in the picture which is more akin to what we use
I think the Nazi lightning bolt was a lot different, but I’m not so sure.
To be honest, I think it’s more of him and his s/o’s initials. That’s the first thing that comes to mind when I see it. But could be another Nazi dogwhistle. Who knows. Saw someone else call this “Temu Nazi”
You see British Blackletter being used by right wing extremists often as a replacement for Gothic German Fraktur. Nazis often have no sense of typography.
The actual NSDAP Nazis actually discouraged use of Fraktur, because it was thought to be related to Hebrew writing and pushed Grotesque and Antiqua fonts instead.
Interesting
You’re wrong on this one and splitting hairs. If the symbology is representative of Nazis to the masses, it’s Nazi.
Maybe they aren’t as autistic as me
If enough people assume something about you, it’s true
Great life lesson for the kids.
That’s how language works. It’s an agreed upon schema. A red stop sign means stop because most people agree that’s what it means.
perhaps, but as a scuba instructor, I am tired of people saying the underwater sign language for “OK” means white power. Context matters. There still should be some effort to understand the intent of the sender, and not just assume the preconceptions of the receiver are the intent. Somone deciding a word or symbol I have been using for my lifetime suddenly means something else does not change my intent. When a Hindu puts a swastika on their house it clearly does not mean the same thing as when a Nazi does. When a spanish art teacher refers to black paint…etc, etc… In cases like this, I think we have enough context that the font and details of the symbol are irrelevant. It is clear what his intent is. If the guy did not share those beliefs, given what he does for a living, I would think he would be more careful about using anything that could be mistaken for Nazi symbology.
Yea. But it’s on an ICE agent deporting people because of the color of their skin on an order from a dictator. The context makes it even more obvious.
You sure are going out of your way to excuse things here
“nazi” is a harsh allegation here in Europe. I don’t know about America, but here it shouldn’t be used lightly.
I don’t know about america either.
I’m not american.
at this point ppl point out everyrhing. it doesnt even slightly look like a ᛋ
And ᛋ doesnt look exactly the same as s, nazis use the ⚡ emoji all the time, a nazi doesnt care about the specifics
next youll be telling us elon musk didnt throw a roman salute
Oh, “Roman salute” was the excuse. Where they’re silent is if asked which notable groups of people in the 20th century used the “Roman salute”. Strangely, they go even quieter if you give them the hint that they were based in Italy and Germany in the early part of the 20th century.
Look up the SS logo.
ICE are all the raging assholes that constantly demanded violent responses to everything a minority or liberal did, or suggested nuking every foreign country for whatever perceived infraction, while safely behind a screen and keyboard. They refused to sign up for the military that would impose rules, expectations, and restrictions on them. Also, people shoot back at you if you get deployed. Can’t have that. Too scary. So they join ICE and get to beat up on those foreign people and piss off the libs while under State Protection, nobody gets to shoot back. They’re protected from consequences. Cowards and bullies.
There must be towns all over America that are suddenly peaceful and pleasant because their local psychos all went and joined ice.
What’s the NS stand for though? Only thing that comes to mind to be labeled a nazi is “National Socialist”
I spent too much time looking for what this patch might be and didn’t find anything. The only patch I found with an NS on it was for Nova Scotia, which I have a feeling isn’t what this is.
With that said though, it’s hard to say what this is. The lightning bolt isn’t the same shape as the SS, but it is the same shape as a lot of military groups use. Who knows though. It could be a Nazi thing. They did use similar lightning bolts too I believe, just the SS one is quite different. It could still even be a reference to that, but trying to be slightly less obvious.
ICE guys is named Ned Slanders.
National Socialist?
A lot of people posting this, I’m guessing sarcastically because it doesn’t make much sense.
I’m guessing it’s “No survivors” because “ooooh, I’m such an edgy badass!”
Keep in mind that they’re hunting people who didn’t fill out paperwork properly.
Allegedly, at that. We’ll never know because there’s no due process, and plenty of documented immigrants and even citizens are being swept up in their acts of terror.
It could also be Nation & State of its homeland security
is this what cops splurge on after breaking the piggy bank? kids these days…
Probably what they do after they hawk the items they stole from an apartment. They’d be too scared to break a piggy bank, it would probably freak them out and they’d point guns at random things.
Or maybe what they splurge on with their generous gestapo signing bonus.
Nazis wearing nazi shit :O
You dont have to look back very far to determine how this started on a low level, this is just aggresive inaappropriate counter-culture , 4chan internet troll, basement dwelling shitheel behaivor from the 90s and 00s but carried over into adult life
Contrarians will always be contrary, so I guess being contrary to a boring “regime” that didnt particularly say or do anything except for ask for generic human rights for everyone, means cosplaying as the most offensive thing you can think of because it makes them mad, Cosplaying as Nazis and even doing the same thing the Nazis did with randomly and incorrectly co-opting norse iconography.
They aren’t Nazis just for contrarianisms sake, a large portion of the right wing in the US is inspired by and wants to emulate the Nazis and agree with their racist worldview. A lot of the people trolling and posting ironic racist stuff were just being edgy at some point, but many of them do agree with the things and just troll/joke as a cover.
