According to some sources, at least 1 in 8 of the world population is classified as ‘obese’. Since nobody in any government seems to have thought up a working solution, what do you believe can be done to solve the epidemic?

the alleged definition of obesity

  • PlzGibHugs@piefed.ca
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    1 hour ago

    Theres a whole host of issues, many of which are already mentioned, but two other big ones are treating it more as a health issue rather than a moral one, and improving healthcare - especially mental health care.

    People don’t realize, but a lot of obesity cases are tied into other health issues - especially mental health. This is doubly true for more extreme cases. For a very simple example, those who are neurodivergent often struggle with specific stimulations including food textures (limiting food options), especially in combination with food deserts or areas with little selection. On the other hand, this can often be improved or worked around with medication and/or therapy. Medication such as antidepressants or antipsychotics causing weight gain is another very common example, and while it isn’t as easy to avoid, better medical support can make it easier to manage, especially if you need to change diet as a result. For a more extreme example, trauma is very closely tied to weight gain and eating disorders. Watch any episode of My Six-Hundred Pound Life (or better yet, don’t), and you’ll notice that almost all of them have significant trauma. For example, childhood abuse can lead to difficulty self-regulating, or sexual abuse can cause someone to feel that being “”“ugly”“” will help prevent future assaults. These examples just scratch the surface too, and things only gen messier when you have comorbid conditions. Just imagine, for example, someone with OCD affecting how they eat, depression treated with a weight-gain causing medication, and PMOS (a hormonal issue common in women, which often makes it extremely difficult to lose weight). Doctors often ignore or struggle to treat any of these individually, nonetheless all three together, and thats before we open the conversation around affordability.

    Given this, and just how sensitive and defensive humans are in general, that makes it all-the-more important that we treat people respectfully and kindly. Even ignoring basic decentcy, demonizing or mocking people for their weight delegitimises efforts to change systematic barriers, makes accessing care more difficult or unfriendly, often wastes time or confuses with “advice” that is unhelpful or outright destructive given the context of someone’s medical background (I.E. telling someone with an eating disorder to control their eating more), and increases stress, which in turn, makes medical issues worse and harder to cope with. Instead, if we treat it as a medical issue, we avoid all of this and stop moralising or hurting people already struggling.

  • lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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    2 hours ago

    Hormone shots seem to be the most effective. Diet works but good luck convincing many people of that let alone getting them to actually stick to it.

  • JigglySackles@lemmy.world
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    Treating it like the multifaceted issue it is instead of a moral failing would be a start.

    In the US that would mean labor laws which favor the human instead of the business. With hours that allow more daily personal time and pay that allows prosperity even at minimum wages. These things would tale care of most people.

    It would also mean medical treatment being available without burdensome cost, and with consideration to it being a mental hurdle like addiction and destigmatizing seeking aid for it in that manner. Universal healthcare removing the need/demand for private and employment tied insurance would help this as well.

    There are many more facets, and facets within facets to all of this, but from a mile high view I think this would help a lot.

  • AA5B@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    I don’t think there is a solid answer but the current political chaos points to one step

    • make junk and fast food more expensive - vice taxes

    Looking at myself, I see portion size is the number one issue. Mental state also contribute, although I can’t claim anything treatable. So I eat too much and it’s a comfort thing but I don’t see a way for government to help me do the right thing there

    Exercise. While exercise isn’t the main contributor to being overweight, it does go to state of mind. I’m much less likely to overeat when I’ve been active. This is where we ought to be able to do something to keep people moving

  • WillieShen@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    Make people even poorer, so that they can transform from too poor to buy healthy food to too poor to buy food

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    5 hours ago

    I am obese. It’s a cumulation of calories factors. It’s some part meds - which I have to take because society and I don’t mesh well because I actually believe people deserve a good quality of life instead of profit over everything. It’s some part emotional issues - I’ve had some trauma and I need some therapy but I can’t afford the time and money. It’s some part convenience - I don’t have a lot of external support to take care of my family, so I have to do a lot and the available choices are usually focused on convenience not health. It’s some part logistics - walking is not an option around my city and public transit is completely worthless.

  • xavier666
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    7 hours ago

    I can tell you what I did. I went from 92 kilos to 69 kilos in a year.

    1. Nearly removed all carbs from my diet
    2. Increased diet to include vegetables and chicken and eggs
    3. Removed artificial sugar
    4. Removed all apps which allowed food delivery
    5. Went to gym 5 days a week
    6. Told myself everyday “trust the process”

    I started noticing changes after 3 months.


    Now how do you convert this into government policy? That is a huge problem altogether. Long term thinking + strong regulations. Even if you try something like this, you will be ridiculed for suggesting government overreach. At the end of the day, a diet is a personal choice.

    • lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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      2 hours ago

      Free healthcare including counseling, free gyms, shorter work weeks to give people more time for activities, and subsidize healthy foods so they’re more affordable.

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        2 hours ago

        Thanks for highlighting counseling. I think people kind of ignore/underestimate the mental aspect of trying to be fit. A true long-lasting healthy life needs its ground work to be based on sustainable habits. It needs to be taught that fitness isn’t what you do for 1 hour in the gym, but the full 24 hours in your day. At the same time, fitness isn’t torturing your body. You need to reward yourself from time to time (but within limits).

    • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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      6 hours ago

      This works, I did it too. I lost 65 pounds in six months, and It’s been gone for over ten years now.

      But, that doesn’t make profits for the rich and takes effort, so they made a drug instead.

      • xavier666
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        6 hours ago

        If you reduce obesity, how will healthcare insurance companies survive? Won’t someone think about the poor billionaire CEOs?

  • morbidcactus@lemmy.ca
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    7 hours ago

    You absolutely can get addicted to food, others turn to food for comfort, some eat as a response to trauma as well (ever see my 600lb life, almost every person there has had some sort of trauma or mental health struggle.), therapy and other mental health care never seems to make it into these plans and that, in my opinion, is where they fail.

    Most governments never seem to treat obesity as a chronic illness, just some sort of personal failing.

    Edit.

    Obesity risk factors are also genetic, no one chooses to be obese and the constant shaming and hatred people who exist in fat bodies get is unreal. I know fat people who are terrified of being seen even going for a walk outside because of internalised fat shaming, it fucks with your head something fierce.

    I grew up fat which did not set me up for good habits later in life, I have struggled with binge eating and stress eating all throughout my life, getting an ADHD diagnosis and medicated for it was probably one of the best things that could have happened to me, others in my situation may not have the ability to get that help or be in a place they are ready to even seek it.

  • Zensate@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    The first thing to understand is that nobody understands the obesity crisis at all.

    The second thing to understand is that the human body naturally stays at a healthy weight, just like any other animal, unless a person has become completely out of touch with their bodies. It cannot be solved with control or medicine.

    The third thing to understand is that we teach people to dissociate from their bodies from childhood.

    So we do not have an obesity crisis, we have a disembodiment crisis. And obesity is only one of the thousands of horrible effects it creates.

    • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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      The third thing to understand is that we teach people to dissociate from their bodies from childhood.

      Can you explain what do you mean by this? I’m trying to apply your statement to my own childhood and see the mostly the opposite.

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        2 hours ago

        “You have to force yourself to eat this thing you don’t like”

        “You have to force yourself to eat everything on your plate even if you say you’re full”

        “You can’t touch yourself that way, that’s inappropriate”

        “Boys don’t cry”

        “Boys don’t get scared”

        “Girls don’t get angry”

        “Boys / girls don’t like those kind of things”

        “You have to smile and be polite even if you don’t like it”

        “It’s rude not to let them hug / kiss / touch you”

        “You have to say thanks and smile even if you don’t mean it”

        “You have to sit still”

        “You have to be quiet”