Wait what’s happened in New York?
10 shot outside of a club in queens, ages 16-20
This sounds more like gang shit
A group of four men fired at least 30 gunshots into a crowd that gathered near the Amazura nightclub
It doesnt matter the reason, its still a mass shooting.
I guess, the term mass shooting just makes me think of one dude going off the rails.
The fact that we need subgenres for this shit is disgusting either way.
I still think your distinction is important. They are both tragedies of course, but it’s important to know and understand the cause.
The majority accepted is 4 or more injured or killed, not including the shooter (gun violence archive).
The DOJ version is 4 or more killed, which is just the mass murder definition with a shooter, leaving out a lot of incidents.
In either case though, the motive is irrelevant because its not going to be known at the time.
Interestingly, the DOJ version also causes mass killings that made minimal firearm involvement to be on the list.
It’s why the 7th deadliest “school shooting” was in the mid-18th century, and only one person was actually shot, with the rest killed by melee weapons.
I would just refer to people who “go postal” as rampage killers. Spree killer and mass shooter already have their own definitions after all.
It’s important in the sense that if it’s “just gang shit” then people think it’s less random, and so they have some agency to avoid it, which makes it less scary. They’re also not in social groups even close to gangs, so it’s not something that would ever happen to them.
It doesnt make a difference for the definition of a mass shooting (really any of them, there are multiple definitions).
'Merica!
We’ve normalized mass shootings.
Mass shooting? Sounds like a normal Wednesday.
NYC has the lowest crime rate of any US major city by a lot.
That may be true based on stats which can always be manipulated. But it sure doesn’t feel safer. There was a time when you had no fear riding the subway. Now you are taking your life in your hands just standing on the platform
Was that before or after Bernie Goetz decided to murder people and then he got away with it? Because I’m not sure everyone felt safer after that.
NYC used to be much more dangerous. Really goes to show how mislead we can be by emotions that you feel it’s only dangeeous now
You are not old enough to remember how peaceful and clean the city was during the 16 years of Guiliani and Bloomberg
Oh, yes. The “stop and frisk” era.
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Just because it’s common doesn’t mean it would be categorised or described differently. A mass shooting is a mass shooting, no matter how often it happens.
First mass shooting in the US.
Unfortunately Montenegro beat us to the punch this year with a mass shooting killing 10 earlier yesterday.
What the fuck, Montenegro, get your own thing. Something related to chain smoking probably.
Proposition to call lung cancer, Montenegrin cancer
But anything outside the US doesn’t count, maybe even doesn’t exist, according to a majority of US citizens.
It’s truly disturbing how common it is for 'Muricans to just forget and/or not care about anything outside the US. And even for things within the US, they forget timezones are a thing even though their own country has several.
You know when you ignore things in life too long and they just start becoming chaos?
America!
Are the Americans ok?
Naw man, we’re pretty fucking far from ok
Well, time to grab some blowtorches and get medieval on someone
someone in this world bought a balloon and went driving to find a dead animal for that image._.
you think they went driving to find a dead animal?
cute…
Someone has to be driving to make roadkill. It just makes sense to drive up your own roadkill, if you’re looking for some.
And left their car parked in the photo.
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Nope
Bro we’re straight up not having a good time.
Hahahahah. No.
NSFW
No
New Years RESOLUTIONS, RESOLUTIONS, not revolutions…
On the second thought, continue.
Don’t put your trust in revolutions. They always come around again. That’s why they’re called revolutions. - Pratchett
I tell ya, what we need is the luggage…
I’ll put all my trust in the luggage.
1-2-3-4-5
I’m just happy they’re finally acknowledging that domestic terrorism is a thing, even if its just to avoid looking hypocritical because of Luigi Mangione
Finally? Didn’t Homeland Security or the FBI come out in the mid 2000s to warn that the most serious terror threat would be the domestic one?
And that they would be mostly right-wing folks, which has generally been true, in part because the bush administration deprioritized going after them.
There’s a scene in Justified and similar in some other shows in the years after 9/11. Marshalls are looking for help on some homegrown organized crime types and the FBI tell them “sorry boys if it ain’t about turbans or bombs in the sand we don’t have the money or time.”
We just sorta never stopped that after 20 years occupying and bombing the wrong country and now we have a goddamn nazi infestation again
yeah, because Timothy McVeigh.
I think this is the year where I force myself to stop paying attention to current events and completely disconnect
Do it, it’s amazing
Humans aren’t evolved for information overload like this. It rots our brain
This is America https://youtu.be/VYOjWnS4cMY
This is not America https://youtu.be/GK87AKIPyZY
Got an English translation? No captions on that one.
The footprints of our shoes were already there You stole even the cat's food And you're still licking the plate Super pissed off with this ungrateful bunch Today I hit the drums hard Until they accuse me of mistreatment If you don't understand the fact Well, I throw it at you as cumbia, bossa nova, tango or vallеnato As calabó or bamboo, highly defiant With hot blood as Timbuktu We're insidе the menu 2Pac is called 2Pac, because of Túpac Amaru of Peru America isn't only the USA, pal This is from Tierra del Fuego to Canada You have to be so stupid, such an airhead It's like saying that Africa is only Morocco These scoundrels forgot that the calendar they use Was invented by the Mayans With the pre-Columbian Valdivia for a long time, uh This continent walks But even with all the marines They can't get the peasant plague out off the showcase This goes for the boss of the company The machete isn't just for cutting cane It's also for cutting heads Here we are, we always are We haven't left, we won't leave Here we are, so that you remember If you want it, my machete bites The paramilitaries, the guerrillas The children of the conflict, the gangs The blacklists, the false positives The murdered journalists, the disappeared The narco-governments, everything they stole Those who manifest and those who were forgotten The persecutions, the coups The bankrupt country, the exiles The devalued peso The drug trafficking, the cartels The invasions, the immigrants without papers Five presidents in eleven days Close range shooting at the hands of the police More than a hundred years of torture The Nova Trova singing in the midst of a dictatorship We are the blood that blows The atmospheric pressure Gambino, my brother, this really is America```
series name is Community btw. great series i watched when it was just out
2025 any%
Don’t catch you slippin’ now
- us telecoms hacked (again) by China? 😅
None of which happened in most people’s local areas. Stop reading national news on a regular basis. Focus on your small little life, your family, your neighborhood, your little area.
Of course when you cast a wide net nationally or globally, there will always be negative things happening, and then if you mainly focus on those events, you’ll act as if negative things are the only things.
It didn’t happen to me personally, so it’s fine! Stop paying attention!!
😬
He’s not wrong: if the topic isn’t within your circle of control, then worrying over it is just mentally masturbating to disaster porn.
The key is that the advice to ignore such things isn’t about advocating for blissful ignorance like you think it is. It’s that shrinking your circle of concern frees up your focus to grow your circle of control.
I think he is wrong because being informed and aware of what has happened in the world does not equate to “mentally masturbating to disaster porn”. We do have a real problem with sensationalized media, but the solution is not to just be uninformed…
I sometimes hear similar logic as an argument against things like funding science research: “Why spend money and time on a deep space observatory? We can never get to those places in space anyway”
Thank you for contributing better than I could. You said it very well.
Stop getting scared by terrorism, a few dozen people is nothing compared to even mundane things like traffic deaths.
I mean, I get it, but this is the same logic that is sometimes used for school shootings. It’s abhorrent to ignore a large increase compared to other places just because it is still a small chance, and therefore do nothing.
I like making these less likely, but I know my government’s just gonna pump more money into cops and surveillance rather than do anything effective like making people less disenfranchised and desperate.
By this logic, every war is safer today than in all of human history, so who fucking cares.
/s
Therefore I must pay attention to everything? People were not designed to be globally concerned constantly.
tbh i have been doing this since the election was done with in november ‘24 & i haven’t felt better! my feed is just tech & other interests w no national/global news & keyword filters for the bs the news pushes pretty heavy: trump, musk, bezos, israel, etc. it’s definitely helped me regain some of my sanity.
I learn most major news nowadays BECAUSE it’s a meme in an unrelated forum. There’s no point worrying about mega and sometimes global news events that you could literally do nothing about and often might not even affect you.
Just enjoy your life best you can and minimize that stress.
Good for you.
Third world country things
So… Just another day in America?
