And somehow every single time the problem was so easy to solve, but apparently crying about it is the better solution.

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    I just watched that Linus tech tips video where the guy uninstalls critical system components by accident while trying to install steam.

    First the GUI for the package manager refuses to do it, then apt gives him a warning that he’s going to break his system. It even makes him type “Yes, do what I say!” but he’s too much of a clown to read the warning messages all over his screen. He even smirks at the camera about how silly it is that he would need to type such a thing before he proceeds to mess everything up.

    People were trying to defend him, saying that the system shouldn’t have allowed him to do it or that the warnings should have been flashing and shooting rainbows out of the monitor or that a robot arm should have come out and started honking his clown nose to let him know he was doing something stupid.

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    So many times I see junior Devs (or not so juniors) and normies seeing an error message and, visibly, static plays between their ears on their mental TV set, then they just click the first button that looks appropriate and complain it didn’t work.

    The text of the message does not get read or parsed.

    “You need to close the program to continue”. Doesn’t work.

    “Unexpected X at line N” Doesn’t work.

    Drives me insane.

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    I used to do some linux training for new hires at my old job. The company had a training room with a rack of servers for lab work.

    It was a training on how to deploy the product on a customer server. I personally wrote the instructions and tested them on the lab machines after a fresh install.

    I had others test the lab instructions. I even had people from non-tech roles verify that they too could do the labs by following the instructions.

    Still I get a guy in the training complaining that “this doesn’t work” and I can see from the error on his screen that he must have skipped one of the steps in the lab instructions.

    He’s not even trying to figure it out. Even though others are finishing, he just decided that it doesn’t work and gave up.

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      The good old ways. I miss them.

      Nowadays, it’s more “User Manual? You mean the Manufacturer’s Opinion?”

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        Sometimes I get confused with man pages and have to go on other sites with different explanations and examples. Maybe that’s just me

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          No, that’s the state of documentation on Linux.

          In OpenBSD, bad or lacking documentation is treated as a release-critical bug in the package.

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    Truth is, windows has plenty of such small annoyances just as well, it’s just that everyone is used to the windows way of doing it, so it’s not even worth joking about it.

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      People just don’t want to have fewer annoyances that are solved differently and most often more easily. Change bad.

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    Windows is better… oh, really? Linux is like a breath of fresh air for me, and in two years of using it, I have never noticed or encountered any critical problems or bugs, but when there is a problem, it is usually not so difficult to solve it because there are resources and people who can help.

    My only regret is that I didn’t try Linux a few years ago.

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    Sure, this applies most of the time. My big rendering workstation and Asus laptop run Mint so flawlessly, I was kicking myself for not trying this sooner. My brand new Dell G16 7630 has been a special kind of hell with over two months of forum diving. The keyboard backlight is being a crackhead. The video drivers are a chaotic mess that I’m wary of updating lest my machine completely freezes/bricks for the ~20th time, necessitating a Timeshift.

    So, yeah, Linux is great, but that is not everyone’s experience. For me, it’s only fully usable 66% of the time. I’m still going at it, but those are shitty numbers. We FOSS evangelists need to acknowledge that usability, end-user support, and compatibility are an utter shitshow for the average schmuck. Also, this meme is glowing radioactive evidence of the toxicity undermining the FOSS movement.

    When we start taking ownership of all that AND fixing the experience, then we can finally have the Year of Linux on the Desktop. Or we can sit here, say “hurr durr, look at stupid end-user,” and wonder why normies refuse to switch to Linux.

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      I started using Linux for real this year and your comment couldn’t be more right. Linux community thinks that what is ‘easy’ for them is easy for everyone. “Just go into the terminal and type X” you just lost 95% of Windows users, specially when that command fails because of permissions. Same think happens kn Windows and the person just needs to click allow in that modal. Linux isn’t easy enough yet, but it could be, but first we need to stop denying this problem.

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    I gave up on switching to linux after losing 2 entire evenings setting it up (linux mint) just for my games not to run and not a single solution I could find working.

    I’ll give it another try once I buy my new PC and set that up, but Linux is not as plug and play as windows and I totally understand that non-IT people want to stay away from it now. The community makes it sound as if everything is almost out of the box simple but that is not the case at all.

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          Your plan sounds good, then you can take your time working on the old PC and re-install as needed, especially because the newer windows versions are happy to kill a dual booted Linux.

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      Then probably your Pc was too new

      Id always recommend using Opensuse anyway

      And how did your Games not run? Did you even try to look them up on Protondb?

      edit: Oh, I get it. Anyways, how much is Microsoft/the CIA paying you for this?

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        this right here is the bullshit that keeps people out, brother

        Same things goes for leftist thinking (I see you’re a .ml enjoyer)

        Stop trying to browbeat people into your ideology, calling them stupid provokes an irrational negative emotional response, even if your ideas are objectively more logical, as they’ll just reject it

        This is why capitalism is so effective with their “come to the dark side, we have cookies!”

        Just because it’s free doesn’t mean you don’t need to sell it

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        This pc is from about 2022/2023

        The games were gold or platinum on protonDB and run fine on my steam deck

        Steam / Lutris said they’re running, nothing shows up.

        Your edit is another reason I actually rather stay away from Linux instead of giving it a chance / asking for help. The community feels way too elitist and insulting to anyone not praising it.

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          Im sorry, I just saw a downvote and thoughts this was another post just ranting and not wanting help

          You should probably try Gamescope. I had the same issue many times with GNOME, so using a seperate renderer would at least solve wether the Problem is with the DE or the PC itself

          Also, if you dont use proton as the runner you should have a seperate wine directory with vcredist installed for every game, since wine dosent like having more than 1 thing per directory.

          Also try installing lutris and steam through flatpak, that way they are system independent too

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          There are clowns in every community and they are typically the loudest ones. Sorry Linux didn’t work out for you this time around. Hardware variables are hard to account for which if I had to bet, hardware weirdness is likely to be the root of your issue.

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            Sadly people like this have been there at every corner when I talk about my issues/reasons for not switching (yet). I still want to, but also think this turns off a lot of people.

            That was also my guess certainly with an nvidia GPU. My next pc will be AMD based partially because I really want to make the step to Linux

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    i tried linux once but there was one command that made me not want to use it anymore