for a sale
Not sure what retails stores you go to, but most basically say fuck you multiple times per visit. The easy one is the self checkout, or if they don’t have that, the one checkers with the massive line while the manager looks on from not too far away. Then you got the grocery stores constantly moving things arpund even though everyone hates that. And the fake sales price that is really just the price… I could go on.
Nobody actually laces pot. It would be incredibly fucking obvious since it’s a green plant. You lace cocaine or other non-descript white powdery drugs with other white powders to “water down” the product and artificially make the bag weigh, and thus cost, more to rip off customers. But some white powders are toxic.
I separate the definitions of lacing and cutting. Lacing would be with another psychoactive substance whereas cutting would be with a non psychoactive one.
Pot gets sprayed with hairspray to weigh it down and resin can have plastic added to it to weigh it down.
I doubt it’s intentional. Dealers and other people in the middle of the chain cut drugs with things that lets them increase their supply. One could add active ingredients:
- Fentanyl is similar to heroin but much cheaper. Adding fentanyl can make a supply of heroin appear to be better quality.
- 25-NBOME is occasionally sold as LSD. It has somewhat similar effects.
- Benzocaines and other -caines could be added to cocaine. These -caines, including cocaine, all have a local numbing effect. Adding benzocaine can make the batch of cocaine feel like it’s got more cocaine than it actually does.
- Meth and amphetamines are often added to MDMA, since amphetamines give a similar energy focus boost like MDMA does.
Oftentimes, the adulterant is inactive, and is added to the drug to make it bulkier.
None of those are meant by the drug dealer to harm the drug consumer. The main reason why drugs do kill so many people, especially opioids, is that they are of unknown potency. For example, if one always takes the se amount of heroin when they get high, they might OD if, for example, a specific batch had more fentanyl than usual. Fentanyl is especially especially bad because it is very very potent, making it really easy to OD on.
LD50 is like 1-2mg.
I saw a local advocate or social worker that went to the streets in Portland to get a first hand acct of when fent first hit the streets. Guy said that there was talk that a dealer had had 4 ODs on his batch and everyone went looking for it cause, you know, good stuff. That first wave killed about 60% of users that had less than a year of heavy use(tolerance, he called them new friends), but those that survived had built up their tolerance. So after it was gone everyone went back to the old regular heroin and it didnt quite hit. Users were pissed cause they were buying twice as much for nothing.
Second wave had less ODs because survivors had built up a tolerance, but there was still a lot. He said it was either less savy addicts that didnt take a test batch first before going up or impatient addicts that hadn’t had a good fix and had just been keeping withdrawals away. He saw a guy he shot up with that was 36 hrs into withdrawals. Take a higher dose than normal, so he could actually get high. That he smiled, laid out and started snoring about 2 minutes later. Probably died soon after cause he stopped breathing.
He said all serious addicts can’t go back to regular heroin and that some ppl,like him, take 2 light doses for withdrawals and to lower tolerance and take a normal dose to get high and the high isn’t the same. That its short and causes a lot of nausea. He wished he could somehow lower his tolerance and go back to heroin, but dealers dont sell non fent heroin cause no one wants it.
Pot is rarely laced.
Harder drugs typically have some form of dilution because it is worth it to stretch supply.
The only recent lacing I can think of is fentanyl, which was generally used in pre-existing opioids.
Pot is rarely laced.
edit: Be like selling red bull at jet fuel prices
doesn’t make fiscal sense.
Jet fuel is about $4.30/gallon currently, so it’s a lot cheaper than red bull cost per gallon.
Yea holy shit I’d assumed it would cost more. Gonna need a better analogy.
edit; Tho you do need special containers for jet fuel that I’d assume cost more than an aluminum can haha
You dont need any special container for jet fuel unless you pressure it. An empty PET soda flask works
fentanyl is now being cut with xylazine/tranq, a horse tranquilizer. it makes people OD like fentanyl but narcan does nothing.
Does that make it significantly cheaper, though? I thought fent was que cheap of itself.
If not, why would they cut it so more of their customer base would die?
it is cheaper. allegedly it also increases the effect time of the drug. fentanyl is very powerful but also very short-lasting by itself. in a hospital setting, it would always be used in a very small dose combined with other sedatives.
There was a trend a few years back to mix heroin and cocaine. We’d get overdose victims and apply narcan. Instead of coming around peacefully they’d go from a nod to cocaine psychosis.
My friends who worked for EMS had a lot of stories about that.
Laced pot exists, but when it happens, its intentionaland costs a premium
It doesn’t happen with pot really.
It does happen with opioids like heroin. Why?
Because fentanyl is much more potent. You can smuggle a fraction of the volume for the same amount of sales. So it’s easier to move.The problem comes from the fact that since it’s so potent, if your measurements are off by only a few micrograms, people die. Most garage laboratories have trouble with that level of precision.
Never encountered fake pot until Covid.
For some reason the increase in demand meant that the streets became filled with synthetic cannabinoid sprayed weed, pesticide sprayed weed and other adulterated products.
It definitely happened before, but it happens much more frequently now than it ever had in the past.
It happens for one reason and one reason only: to make more money. Whether thats to increase the grow weigh, the intensity of the high, the ability to spray it with synthetics after washing it for the real THC or the cheapness of spraying the plants with pesticides for bugs: all of it is to make more money without caring about the consumer.
Legalise it, regulate it, health and safety it.
I’m sure in Canada there are some issues with regulating it but can’t say I’ve had more than ‘this doesn’t quite impact me the same as other bud I’ve purchased in % range of thc’ and yeah I know other factors too.
Quite pleasant being able to get bud shipped to your door through postal system, just either have to sign or pick up the package the next day after 1pm if you weren’t home. Plus comes express so usually only a couple business days. It’s relatively safe (depending on format) but you still can get gummies and such to mitigate some health risks. Then you get the bonus of helping through regular taxes, which I know most people don’t like but society has to run somehow. Prices were higher when first introduced then came down as more supply available, though that took a couple years really.
It’s definitely rare but it is not unheard of for disreputable dealers to spray cannabis or fake cannabis with synthetic cannabinoids to fake the quality or increase the strength.
This breaks my heart to read.
They don’t, by and large. “Laced drugs” has been a myth used to demonize drug sellers.
People might lace their own drugs (if youve never had a dirty blunt its a good time) but thats pretty much it.
Source: me, having done lots of drugs for many, many years
Fentanyl is frequently being mixed with a potent animal tranquilizer called
xylazine (known on the street as “tranq” or “tranq dope”), creating a dangerous and often fatal combination. This mixture has been declared an "emerging threat
So yeah it’s out there
According to whom?
Are you being deliberately contrarian or do you me a to imply the opioid AND fentanyl epidemic are somehow made up?
pretty sure they’re just asking for sources
Their response to me indicates otherwise
Just because heroin and fentanyl are prevalent on the streets doesn’t mean that every claim that sounds like it was sourced from a 1990s chain letter is true. That’s an absurd assertion.
Two government sources, which as we all know always report truthfully and without bias about street drugs. The same government that made weed illegal because it “lead to race mixing,” “jazz musicians to create Satanic music,” and caused people to go violently insane.
I also watched a report from Mariana Van Zeller about the drug. She got in contact with people that make the drug and she got a chance to interview police who have to deal with the mess.
Can’t find a link to her report.
My dude heroin is being cut with fentanyl because it’s significantly more potent and so you can step on it more ( add other shit to make it stretch ) to sell.
The opioid crisis was bad enough before fent hit the streets in it. This is a known thing, totally unrelated to the stupid “they put razor blades in my marijuanas”
So that means xylazine is “frequently” being mixed in and it even has its own name “tranq?”
Tranq is short for tranquilizer.
There are lots of names for this.
I’ve heard tranq dope before, yeah.
Hell instead of being the way you are just google or ddg “tranq”
It would have taken you mere seconds.
Depends on the area and the fuckhead you’re dealing with.
I got some weed with some kind of upper in it once. That was me being a stupid teen tho lol.
Oh no my steak is to juicy and my lobster has free speed
DMX was handed blunts laced with crack when he was a teenager, and it became a dependency until the day he died. That’s why people do it in most cases: to create dependency.
Dude he was handed a blunt people were smoking, they put crack in it cuz they wanted it in the blunt.
Drug dealers aren’t out here putting extra drugs in your drugs for free.
If a crack dealer wanted to get someone hooked they’d just give em crack, same for heroin. Testers are real, they’re not gonna hide it in your vitamins
It happens, I gave one well known example. It doesn’t happen often but it does happen.
A well known example that doesn’t match what was being said is the point.
You’re literally talking about the exception I included right there
I’m a secondary source, and validate your statement.
Yeah, no. Anecdotal evidence isn’t evidence.
I read somewhere that there was an app developed by some organisation in a big city to track ODs and help addicts avoid known areas where drugs are adulterated. They had to shut it down when addicts would actually seek out the OD causing drugs using the app like yelp from the upsidedown.
Econ101 does not apply to addiction.
sure it does
the aberration is self correcting
short term fluctuations are expected, just not predicable
Controlling people through fear.
Just like nobody’s putting free drugs in Halloween candy, or passing them out at schools, or any of the other stories that are really just horrible business strategies.
Oh. Here’s another fun fact, you can NOT get high, sick or killed by just touching fentanyl.
just touching fentanyl
But you can watch a cop fake a seizure from being within 500 yards of it and lol at their dumb asses
You can by accidentally touching it, not washing your hands, and then ingesting it. It only takes 2 milligrams.
Do they?
No, you might get a cut version, but almost never laced.
Yeah, it happened to DMX when he was a child. They gave him weed laced with crack and it created a dependency that he never escaped for the rest of his life.
Kind of like a backwards version of “teach a man to fish”.
Pot is basically the cheapest drug there is, nobody is lacing it with more expensive drugs.
Proper drug dealers don’t do that.
As others have said, marijuana is almost never adulterated. At best, you could mix some CBD or non psychoactive hemp to stretch it, but it’d be less potent and weed buyers today often buy for potency. (Not me man, I’m old, gimme that weak dad grass any day!) And of course, everyone has a story about the kid that bought a pound of oregano and thought it was ditch-grass.
For other harder drugs, you do sometimes get adulteration. Fentanyl, being a very powerful opiate, is sometimes mixed in small amounts into other “white powder” drugs, like heroin or cocaine, sometimes along with cheap non-reactive filler like talc. This is to stretch supply and make more money for the dealer. Ideally, this wouldn’t kill their users but:
- Different drugs act differently, so while it might be “safe” to do a larger heroin dose for a fun occasion, if you dont realize it’s been cut with fentanyl then you can easily overdose by accident. And people already overdose on heroin, the line between a wild time and dead can be rather thin.
- Drug Dealers aren’t graduate level chemists, often they haven’t graduated anything, and dont realize that some powder they’ve used as a filler is toxic or becomes toxic in combination with other things or when heated, etc.
Also, if the street level dealer is cutting with fent after their supplier already cut with fent and whoever they got it from also cut with fent, you have no idea what you’re getting.
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sometimes they just add too much by mistake. They don’t want to kill their customers but they don’t know enough to safely spike their product every time, partially because:
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different people react to the same drugs dfferently too. A fentanyl dose that won’t harm Jack at all can be deadly for Jill, even if all the other variables like what it’s mixed with and in whah ratio are the same.
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The easiest way to “cut” weed has always been “get it moist”
Throw some orange peels in the bag, the moisture will move from orange peel to nug, the nugs will smell extra potent and they will weigh more.
Cutting is so you can extend it, or sell less product for more.
Almost every real world case of weed being laced was from an end user doing it on purpose or it was a simple contamination error.
This, had a coworker who bought garbage quality weed from a dealer who reused bags. There were trace amounts of similar quality coke at the bottom of the bag.
