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DominatorX1@thelemmy.club to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml · 3 days ago

Which do you prefer, democracy or dictatorship?

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Which do you prefer, democracy or dictatorship?

DominatorX1@thelemmy.club to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml · 3 days ago
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  • Fleur_@aussie.zone
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    23 hours ago

    Do I get to be the dictator?

    • DominatorX1@thelemmy.clubOP
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      21 hours ago

      Yes, that is an option

      • Fleur_@aussie.zone
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        Then yes, but basically the only thing I would do is plunder as much wealth as possible from the country into my personal account and then appoint a successor. I wouldn’t exactly call the good governance

  • daggermoon@lemmy.world
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    Non-partisan democracy, as the founding fathers intended.

    • frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml
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      Misinformed.

      The founding fathers of the USA never mentioned democracy in the constitution nor declaration of independence.

      In their writings, they only ever used the word as a pejorative: https://founders.archives.gov/?q=democracy&s=1111211111&sa=&r=1&sr=

      “we are not so absurd as to “design a Democracy,” of which the Governor is pleased to accuse us”

      “You would have torn up the Foundations and demolished the whole Fabrick of the Government, and have suffered Democracy… to have arisen in its Place.”

      Are those the founding fathers you’re talking about?

      • daggermoon@lemmy.world
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        From Wikipedia: “Historians have frequently interpreted Federalist No. 10 to imply that the Founding Fathers of the United States intended the government to be nonpartisan.”

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-partisan_democracy?wprov=sfla1

        I’m not reading all of that btw.

  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    Democracy, in the hands of the proletariat, not the bourgeoisie. The government should oppress the capitalist class and uplift the proletariat, political power should be stripped from capitalists and lay with the proletariat instead. This is the “dictatorship of the proletariat” over the bourgeoisie.

  • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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    Experience shows democracies work better in just about every way. Mainly, there’s questions about how stable they can be over the long term.

    I’ve known people who liked the idea of a dictatorship, but they’ve all had funny ideas about how they internally work. Palace intrigue and corruption are inevitable and huge, it’s never just one potentially-wise individual calling the shots.

    • Sturgist@lemmy.ca
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      Everyone is pro-dictatorship until they realise they’re not the dictator.

    • DominatorX1@thelemmy.clubOP
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      So you could say that both suffer from a vulnerability. Both break eventually.

      Also, consider the attractiveness of dictatorship. I think that everybody would like to be a dictator. Who wants to share power? Not me. I want to be in control, of my forum, my project, my game.

      • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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        Dictatorship had a pretty clean run of several thousand years there. Sure, dynasties changed, but never the actual system.

        Also, consider the attractiveness of dictatorship. I think that everybody would like to be a dictator. Who wants to share power? Not me. I want to be in control, of my forum, my project, my game.

        So, my second paragraph kind of addresses that. It’s never actually about one person having the power, as a government system.

        One-person control over something, backed by externally imposed laws, is a completely different thing. You don’t have to worry about your forum members poisoning you and physically taking control of your server.

        • huf [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          you think ancient and medieval monarchies were dictatorships? uh…

        • DominatorX1@thelemmy.clubOP
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          Well the breaking here is the corruption. The 2 different flavors of that. Still ostensibly dictatorship or democracy but not.

  • spittingimage@lemmy.world
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    Why do some of the questions asked in this sub make it sound like the OP’s first day as a human being?

    • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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      I don’t know, but the way they’re answered often ends up being very interesting.

    • DominatorX1@thelemmy.clubOP
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      Why do you dance around like this instead of just answering the question?

  • diegeticalt (any)@lemmygrad.ml
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    Democratic dictatorship of the proletariat

  • Sanctus@lemmy.world
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    Homie had his shit removed and now its everyone’s problem.

    • DominatorX1@thelemmy.clubOP
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      Actually somebody else got their shit removed and I wax philosophical on their behalf. I’m sophisticated that way.

  • oni ᓚᘏᗢ@lemmy.world
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    ???

  • Vampire [any]@hexbear.net
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    I love them all equally Care-Comrade

  • apotheotic (she/her)@beehaw.org
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    Democracy, obviously. No it doesn’t change if I’m the dictator.

  • frippa@lemmy.ml
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    Dictatorship by a wide margin. Why should the parliament squabble over a law for months, possibly years, when under a dictatorship said law could be enacted instantly? Also with democracy every politician just thinks about getting elected, not the actual long-term needs of the country.

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      The squabbling process moves the law toward meeting the needs of more people. If a dictator just gets to decide what the law is, they’ll likely be self-serving to the dictator, or even outright harmful to entire categories of people.

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        The squabbling process moves the law toward meeting the needs of more people.

        Are there data on this?

        You’re making a causal claim (if squabbling, then more needs met) and that’s either empirically true or not.

    • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.social
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      According to election theory, a dictatorship is the only perfectly fair voting system: the only voter wins the vote, every time.

  • andrewta@lemmy.world
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    Who would realistically say dictator? Putin?

    • DominatorX1@thelemmy.clubOP
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      Every moderator on lemmy, obviously.

      • into_highest_invite@lemmygrad.ml
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        just dominate them bro

      • andrewta@lemmy.world
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        Sure

  • Raymond Shannon@lemmy.ml
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    Democracy, like mostly anyone. But it depends on anyone’s conception, here.

    • DominatorX1@thelemmy.clubOP
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      If the dictator was you, might that make dictatorship more attractive?

      • Raymond Shannon@lemmy.ml
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        Hmm, maybe… but tbh, I’m more of a collective leadership thing myself, since I can’t always rely on myself all the time, even in personal life so 🤷

  • rumimevlevi@lemmings.world
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    Democracty, if people do bad choices it’s the people problem not democracy . If the leader of the dictatorship is bad nothing can be done

    • DominatorX1@thelemmy.clubOP
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      How about for lemmy communities?

      • rumimevlevi@lemmings.world
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        Same

        • DominatorX1@thelemmy.clubOP
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          Everybody says democracy but given the opportunity to be dictator they will choose dictatorship every time.

          Is that a realistic assessment?

          • FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website
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            No.

            • DominatorX1@thelemmy.clubOP
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              Ten-thousand Lemmy and Reddit moderators say otherwise.

  • loomy@lemy.lol
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    neither

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