Funny. I was called a Zionist on Lemmy because I said the kids at the festival shouldn’t have had to die.
I think most people can acknowledge that Oct 7 was bad, and also recognize the apartheid and genocide of Palestinians is bad.
Unfortunately, some people can’t
I mean, some people are overzealous, but maybe there’s more context too?
Fundamentally, yeah, civilians getting caught in a conflict sucks.
It’s just that this one attack is used as justification for the vindictive massacres since, which is both wildly out of proportion and extremely unfair to the civilians not involved in the attack who, even in the most charitable reading, get killed for other people’s sins, and in a less charitable one, get killed for other people’s genocidal conviction of supremacy.
Context here: https://lemmy.world/comment/22416297
I just read it again, a “Zionist bootlicker” even, for suggesting the attack at the festival was wrong.
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In this case the bullied kid shot up the school and not just the bully.
It also is a completely different situation than someone in a concentration camp beating up their own guard.
If you think the wasn’t wrong you support terrorism and aren’t any better than the terrorists themselves or the Israeli government.
If you think the wasn’t wrong you support terrorism
Yes. That is what we’ve been talking about. Terrorism was right when the suffragettes did it, it was right when John Brown did it, it was right when the French Resistance did it, and it’s right when Hamas does it. Terrorism has a long history of being on the right side of history and of occasionally being the reason for history progressing in the right direction.
and aren’t any better than the terrorists themselves
So terrorism is at most as bad as a random keyboard warrior with bad opinions?
or the Israeli government.
So orchestrating genocide is at most as bad as a random keyboard warrior with bad opinions?
You’re just as bad as them since you support it if we follow your line of thinking from the Israeli government to the kids at the festival. And even worse because you don’t even know what opinions they held, I do know yours. You don’t get to choose. Either both are true or neither.
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They were celebrating death? LOL what have you been smoking?
And the kids were colonizers and deserved to die? You sure about that? Pretty evil take here.
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From Wikipedia:
The organizers switched to the site only two days before, after the original location in southern Israel did not work out.
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Maybe not them, but their kids should.
Anyway, I’m not going to have another discussion with another jihadist bot.
Don’t forget “terrorist”.
So, they want to criminalize too many colors (rainbows) and too few colors (all black)?
I think my favorite is them calling everyone Antifa … that means “Antifacist” … cons get mad about Antifa because they are Fascists.
tHe NaZiS wErE sOcIaLiSt (actually brain dead take I have heard)
“It’s right there in the name: ‘national socialism’”
Much like the Democratic Republic of Korea is a democratic republic.
It’s unbelievable how little conservatives understand about history, world politics, or… well, anything really
You know, if you have to tell someone you are something, you probably aren’t. It should be evident.
Indeed, people forget that union organizers were the first ones in the concentration camps. Germany had production issues that were caused by a very organized working class. The unions had to be dismantled, so the Nazi party blamed the Jewish. I have no clue how or why it worked, and used to think maybe historians had that wrong … until now, we all see it happening in the US. We get our workers rights stripped away while the new nazi republican regime screams about immigrants.
And people forget – or, more likely, never even knew in the first place – why “national socialism” was called that. The intention was to create an anticapitalist ideology that was in opposition to Marxist socialism, ie. good 'ol “third way” stuff.
They really were anticapitalist for a while, up until the Night of the Long Knives in 1934 when the strasserists and the Black Front got murked, and then the Nazis just sort of forgot about all that anticapitalist stuff and went all-in on privatisation and courting Big Money. The whole reason for the split between the strasserists and the “hitlerites” was that Hitler wasn’t at all into anticapitalism: Otto Strasser thought that Hitler had betrayed national socialism by getting in bed with capitalists and formed the Black Front in… uh… fuck, early 30’s I think. Naturally Hitler took that really well.
But yeah, the Nazis outlawed unions in favour of their corporatist vision (note that “corporatist” probably doesn’t mean what you think it means if the term isn’t familiar), and shoved anyone to the left of, well, the Nazis into concentration camps.
“But those kids were future terrorists!”
- Zionist assholes
You don’t have to build the concentration camp if you just bomb the kids.
She makes the best comics for babies, and the best comics for adults it seems.
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Would make more sense for the bunny to be getting arrested.
you forgot the back of the shirt.
but only the good kids
I don’t get it
because it doesn’t matter what side of this argument you’re on, someone will always claim you’re fighting for the wrong side.
