tech savvy ppl and non-techy ppl both dont like Edge, Bing and copilot
Google is fucking unusable as a search engine now. Bing is literally better now if you block the AI part.
Was searching for something very simple. Google literally wouldn’t find it. Changed the search terms multiple times.
Tried bing and it literally popped up as the first result with the same first search I tried on Google.
This isn’t a one time thing either. Give me an alternate to Bing. But Google is literally hot garbage now.
Yeah, this is “tech” “savvy” people, not actual people who understand tech.
The current version of Edge is literally just Chrome with extra bells and whistles.
Yup. This is the meme of a kind of person who is “tech savvy” as an affectation they use to adorn their personality. It’s nothing more, with no deeper thought involved.
I just call myself a “guy on linux with a firefox fork” and nothing more to be honest.
Tech savvy people like Duckduckgo, Duckduckgo uses Bing under the hood
I host my own search engine lol.
Ah, finally someone using the European open Search index?
No lol. SearXNG. But would look up what you mentioned
SearXNG is not a search engine. It is a Frontend for everything from Google to bing.
Ik that. I was talking in terms of a layman.
Yacy what you did there
We also maintain our own crawler (DuckDuckBot) and many indexes to support our results.
DDG uses a whole bunch of stuff, including feeding anonymized results through the bing API, but they’ve been largely driven by their own indexes for several years now after using Bing to bootstrap themselves.
I use Edge on Linux
Hello Satan.
Not OP, but I have been meaning to talk to my Ubuntu admin about Intune on his systems so we can use conditional access on them.
With how difficult it had been to get macs setup, I have a feeling Edge will be the only way it works.
So in enterprise situations…I’d say “Plausible”.
Personally I mostly use Firefox on Linux, but Proxmox gui doesn’t handle that so well…so for that I have an App-isized Ungoogled Chromium window.
Am an admin, funny thing about conditional access, we use various conditions but one is geolocation; we bar all logins outside of three countries relevant to our workers. We employed it mostly due to a continuous low-threat brute force campaign targeting a few exposed accounts that my data analysis had identified. In testing it out from Red Team’s perspective I quickly realized that conditional access will indeed prevent a login outside of the whitelisted countries, but it will gladly let the attacker know that the reason the login failed was due to conditional access and not an incorrect username/password. So all Red Team has to do is brute force the password and then VPN over to our country of operation and they’re in.
I’m tech savvy, and I dislike Firefox.
Any particular technical reason?
Past experience where they sucked it up. I used to be a Firefox apostle spreading the good word, then they start getting worse when chrome was getting hot. And it’s been so easy to stay on chrome with no issues over the past 12 years that I haven’t had any inkling to move back. There was a hard minute where Firefox sold out and shared data, sold it, and just wasn’t great.
Isn’t Chrome the one known for sharing data?
I’ve been using primarily LibreWolf for almost a year and have not had any trouble using just Firefox based browsers for over three years. (Before then I needed Chromium for M$ teams occasionally)
And honestly at this point every browser pretty much out there shows data one way or another. And for a good hard minute Firefox was notoriously selling data because they were bleeding dry on their foundation and they needed to earn money so they decided to sell user data. At that time Chrome was much more secure and they don’t necessarily sell data as opposed to sharing data with themselves.
Edge is actually pretty great. Bing…well, the image search is okay.
Don’t knock Bing Videos, either. It’s the best porn search engine in existence.
I’ve heard that! But I’m gay so I’m not sure the shareholders want it to serve me.
I’m pan and trust me it’s not an issue. You can find anything you want there.
I use edge on Mac.
Me too, I tried using Firefox on Mac but for some reason its power consumption is insanely high.
if im using chromium, it’s gonna be vivaldi
Can it set the bookmarks bar to only show up on the new tab page yet?
yeah basically any bookmarks you put in your speed dial older show up on the new tab page
Speed dial is not the same as bookmarks though
On my work computer I actually use Edge over Chrome since it has vertical tabs by default.
Edges vertical tabs are actually one of the best implementations. Zen is close but it can be unstable, especially if you start moving tabs out of the existing window, it fucks up essentials.
Where is Vivaldi?
I’m using Edge and Bing right now, on Windows 11
clearly, either ragebait or Microsoft rewards.
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I love edge…
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I know this is the wrong place for this but I like edge.
in the meanwhile im using Zen Browser.
Thanks for introducing zen
No Problem, hope you like it!
Something about Microsoft UI just feels so off for some reason. Material UI, Apple stuff all feels good to use but clicking on a button in Microsoft UI is just… bad.
It makes me think of Fisher Price toys.
Fisher-Price actually has solidity to it. I’d take that over these pseudomagical plastic sticky notes.
yeah it does really feel plasticky in the worst way
I think because they try so hard to be edgy (eheh) and different from the others, by constantly trashing known tested paradigms, refusing to fix known problems, all whike trying to invent the “brand new thing” that nobody wants and never reallt works out.
Windows-only users would never know, but people who’ve either used a modern mac or linux computer will understand.
I have Linux on my gaming PC, a Windows laptop at work and regularly work on a Mac to test stuff. I literally don’t see what you people love so much about the Mac UI. “Same but different”, sure, but nothing groundbreaking.
Or windows users that have been around 20 plus years…
Really it is sad just how bad its all gone.
