• gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
    7·
    4 hours ago

    i don’t really get why nobody besides me seems to freak out about how amazing it is that the “fire & water” dualism can be found in our households

  • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
    18·
    13 hours ago

    I’m not sure to what extent this is common in your home country, but I was a scout kid and our “leader” actually told us to build fires like this - well, at least the first panel - with an utter lack of humor. Vilifying the habit of just throwing sticks together.

    • The_v@lemmy.world
      5·
      9 hours ago

      Yes, I learned most of the fire starting methods. My grandfather used to run a pack train into some very remote areas in Montana.

      Of course the method I stick with is a little more effective. I carry a little bottle of lamp oil with me when I go into the back country. It always lights up quickly no matter the conditions. Only takes a little bit to start a fire so a small bottle can last for a few weeks.

        • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
          4·
          4 hours ago

          And in case someone doesn’t: You don’t need to take the entire bark off the wood. Just the outermost layers. So you can even take some from a live tree without worries in a pinch.

          And if you have no idea what birch looks like, it’s the white barked one.

          • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
            3·
            3 hours ago

            You don’t need to take the entire bark off the wood. Just the outermost layers. So you can even take some from a live tree without worries in a pinch.

            Thanks for adding that!

            • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
              1·
              4 hours ago

              Well assuming half the people pirated it and half bought it, that’s still under 10% of the population of the world. Also Minecraft items having labels is a fairly new thing. There were no labels when I did most of my playing, but there were when I last played. I think they added them in Beta so about 2010, 2011?

    • Crazyslinkz@lemmy.world
      24·
      13 hours ago

      The log cabin fire is more stable than a teepee shape fire. It’s easier to stack logs in this fashion.

        • Crazyslinkz@lemmy.world
          10·
          10 hours ago

          There’s different fires for different purposes. Just internet search “types of campfires” and you can see. There’s one where you dig for airflow. One is better for cooking, one for windy conditions, and so on.

          • onslaught545@lemmy.zip
            2·
            4 hours ago

            Oh, I know. Fire was my hobby as a preteen/young teen, to the point that my mom let me bury a grill so I could burn stuff in it. I was also in the scouts, and won every “start a fire with a single match” competition I was part of.

            Last month she had me over to burn a burn pile for her, and she had a 5 gallon canister of diesel that she expected to use all of to start it. I walked around the pile, took 4oz of it, poured it in one spot, then lit a match. The pile was ablaze in about 15 seconds flat and burned out within 2 hours. The diesel wasn’t even necessary, I just used it because she had already poured it.

            Building fires is my specialty, and there has never been a fire that I’ve built that would have benefited from the log cabin method. Even the teepee method is unnecessarily complicated.

            You don’t need structural stability for a fire. In fact, it’s usually a hindrance. You want it to collapse in a specific way and be able to stir it up.

            That’s why you start with a pile of shavings, then add a pile of twigs, then a pile of increasingly bigger sticks up until about 1in in diameter. You don’t put anything heavier on until the base fire is caught and has coals.

            This is an oversimplification, of course, because you have to account for airflow.

            • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
              2·
              4 hours ago

              Diesel doesn’t even burn that well on its own. For it to do anything, you must’ve already had a pretty decent fire going without it.

              I’m nowhere near as knowledgeable as you, but I do have an actual furnace for heating in the winter, so I have some experience. I can also vouch for structural stability being a hindrance: If I build it too well, there are usually logs or bricks that don’t catch fire until a long time later.

            • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
              1·
              4 hours ago

              That’s why you start with a pile of shavings, then add a pile of twigs, then a pile of increasingly bigger sticks up until about 1in in diameter. You don’t put anything heavier on until the base fire is caught and has coals.

              Basically just a lazy teepee, and I mean “lazy” in the most flattering possible sense.