Oh, I know. Fire was my hobby as a preteen/young teen, to the point that my mom let me bury a grill so I could burn stuff in it. I was also in the scouts, and won every “start a fire with a single match” competition I was part of.
Last month she had me over to burn a burn pile for her, and she had a 5 gallon canister of diesel that she expected to use all of to start it. I walked around the pile, took 4oz of it, poured it in one spot, then lit a match. The pile was ablaze in about 15 seconds flat and burned out within 2 hours. The diesel wasn’t even necessary, I just used it because she had already poured it.
Building fires is my specialty, and there has never been a fire that I’ve built that would have benefited from the log cabin method. Even the teepee method is unnecessarily complicated.
You don’t need structural stability for a fire. In fact, it’s usually a hindrance. You want it to collapse in a specific way and be able to stir it up.
That’s why you start with a pile of shavings, then add a pile of twigs, then a pile of increasingly bigger sticks up until about 1in in diameter. You don’t put anything heavier on until the base fire is caught and has coals.
This is an oversimplification, of course, because you have to account for airflow.
That’s why you start with a pile of shavings, then add a pile of twigs, then a pile of increasingly bigger sticks up until about 1in in diameter. You don’t put anything heavier on until the base fire is caught and has coals.
Basically just a lazy teepee, and I mean “lazy” in the most flattering possible sense.
Diesel doesn’t even burn that well on its own. For it to do anything, you must’ve already had a pretty decent fire going without it.
I’m nowhere near as knowledgeable as you, but I do have an actual furnace for heating in the winter, so I have some experience. I can also vouch for structural stability being a hindrance: If I build it too well, there are usually logs or bricks that don’t catch fire until a long time later.
Oh, I know. Fire was my hobby as a preteen/young teen, to the point that my mom let me bury a grill so I could burn stuff in it. I was also in the scouts, and won every “start a fire with a single match” competition I was part of.
Last month she had me over to burn a burn pile for her, and she had a 5 gallon canister of diesel that she expected to use all of to start it. I walked around the pile, took 4oz of it, poured it in one spot, then lit a match. The pile was ablaze in about 15 seconds flat and burned out within 2 hours. The diesel wasn’t even necessary, I just used it because she had already poured it.
Building fires is my specialty, and there has never been a fire that I’ve built that would have benefited from the log cabin method. Even the teepee method is unnecessarily complicated.
You don’t need structural stability for a fire. In fact, it’s usually a hindrance. You want it to collapse in a specific way and be able to stir it up.
That’s why you start with a pile of shavings, then add a pile of twigs, then a pile of increasingly bigger sticks up until about 1in in diameter. You don’t put anything heavier on until the base fire is caught and has coals.
This is an oversimplification, of course, because you have to account for airflow.
Basically just a lazy teepee, and I mean “lazy” in the most flattering possible sense.
That’s a good description of it, actually. It’s controlled chaos.
Diesel doesn’t even burn that well on its own. For it to do anything, you must’ve already had a pretty decent fire going without it.
I’m nowhere near as knowledgeable as you, but I do have an actual furnace for heating in the winter, so I have some experience. I can also vouch for structural stability being a hindrance: If I build it too well, there are usually logs or bricks that don’t catch fire until a long time later.
Yeah, I rarely use an accelerant when I start a fire. It’s a crutch for a bad foundation.