Like, could you make a smaller version of a 1911 that fires 22lr instead of .45 by just scaling all the parts to the 22lr?

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    24 hours ago

    Short answer no, not everything scales linearly.

    You’d have 1/8th the powder charge in a chamber with 1/8th the volume, encased by a barrel 1/2 as thick to contain the same pressure as the full size one.

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    If you’re talking about actually scaling, like a CAD drawing, then no.

    If you’re talking most of the appearance and function, then yes! There is a scale model of a Browning M2 machine gun (which normally fires 50 cal ammo) that fires 22lr instead. It will set you back about $20,000.

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      22 hours ago

      I’m mostly thinking appearance and function, I recognize that rim fire 22lr is absolutely not going to work in a center fire without some sort of conversion.

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        There is a whole youtube rabbit hole you can go down showing videos of miniature versions of larger (larger caliber) guns. The smallest I saw was “replica” Civil War Navy revolver that the whole gun was about 6cm long. It was a functional gun that had a powder charge with a projectile.

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    23 hours ago

    More changes would be needed than direct uniform scaling - .22lr is rimfire, whereas .45acp is centerfire, for example, and their aspect ratios are different. The mass and strength of uniformly scaled-down parts also might not match the recoil and pressure provided by the smaller round, and might result in failure to reliably cycle the action or the gun bursting if the mismatch is too much.

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      23 hours ago

      I have an easily swapable bolt that let’s my AR-15 shoot .22LR. Pretty nifty, though not quite as accurate since the bullet is .003 thinner.

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      22 hours ago

      To clarify for the OP, these don’t generally scale down the whole gun. Caliber conversions can be as simple as swapping the bolt.

      You can also sometimes swap to a larger caliber. They make ‘conversion kits’ for the AR-15 that are functionally just most of a new gun. You can get those for a variety of calibers from 7.62x39 to .50 Beowulf.

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      16 hours ago

      I am aware of conversion kits and the like, I’m more interested in the idea of using mechanisms and designs for something else.