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TadoTheRustacean@programming.dev to Programmer Humor@programming.dev · 1 年前

What are variables and semicolons for actually?

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What are variables and semicolons for actually?

TadoTheRustacean@programming.dev to Programmer Humor@programming.dev · 1 年前
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  • DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works
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    Finally, pure functional rust.

  • FizzyOrange@programming.dev
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    Neat FP style. Pretty verbose though. Someone should invent a terser syntax so you don’t need to write do_two_things everywhere. It’s a common operation so maybe it could even be a single character.

    • TadoTheRustacean@programming.devOP
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      If you know about rust you know it’s a programmable programming language, meaning that you can make macros. There could be a macro that would do that but 1. Macros is rust code to write rust code so they have the complexity of rust squared 2. I said to myself the only macros I will allow myself to use in this challenge is println and allow

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      Like a semicolon? No, too boring. What about >>=

    • tatterdemalion@programming.dev
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      ; is just a monad after all

  • TheAgeOfSuperboredom@lemmy.ca
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    Yeah, semicolons are ugly anyway and they’d ruin the beautiful expression of your code.

    • dohpaz42@lemmy.world
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      On a more serious note, does rust suffer some of the same issues as JavaScript when it comes to omitting semicolons?

      • Deebster@programming.dev
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        No…?

      • marcos@lemmy.world
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        Do not expect to find anything like Javascript craziness on other languages. Or you’ll be severely disappointed.

        • FizzyOrange@programming.dev
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          There are plenty of languages with warts at least as bad as JavaScript’s. Bash, PHP, C, even relatively sane languages like Python still have huge issues like implicit variable declaration.

          • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
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            JS and PHP are by themselves in a special ring of hell.

            • TadoTheRustacean@programming.devOP
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              Bash is a bigger one. Luckily there’s nushell

        • jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works
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          for (const item in items) { }
          

          !=

          for (const item of items) { }
          
          • xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org
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            Still better than

            for _, item in ipairs(items)
            
      • TheAgeOfSuperboredom@lemmy.ca
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        Nope. In Rust, a semicolon denotes a statement while a lack of semicolon is an expression so you can’t just omit them at will. This does lead to cool things though like if/else blocks being able to produce values if they end in an expression. But the expression type is checked so you’re less likely to make a mistake. You can see an example here: https://doc.rust-lang.org/rust-by-example/flow_control/if_else.html

        In JavaScript I never skip semicolons because I’ve seen those subtle bugs.

    • OpenStars@startrek.website
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      POV: your project manager went in an “cleaned” it all up by removing them - your (sic) welcome! 😜

  • colournoun@beehaw.org
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    Isn’t this basically how lisp works?

    • TheAgeOfSuperboredom@lemmy.ca
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      Yup! Also languages in the ML family and others I’m sure.

  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    Now do it without using commas

    • TadoTheRustacean@programming.devOP
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      Challenge accepted! If I won’t procrastinate from this procrastinating, tomorrow will be a version 2 without commas!

    • TadoTheRustacean@programming.devOP
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      I’ve did it https://programming.dev/post/12516136

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  • Ethan@programming.dev
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    After programming in Go for nearly a decade, the idea of going back to needing semicolons brings me pain. Rust seems cool, but semicolons 🤢

    • TadoTheRustacean@programming.devOP
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      As you can see, rust allows you to not put semicolons at the end of code blocks. The presence of semicolons is not a language killer. It’s a very hard language, but its worth it.

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        I agree. Semicolons are a small “tradeoff” (personally not for me) for such a great language.

      • Ethan@programming.dev
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        The presence of semicolons is not a language killer.

        I’m not saying it is. But every time I have to work in a language that requires semicolons I’m constantly forgetting them and constantly reminded of how nice it is to not have to care in Go.

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    What’s the font?

    • TadoTheRustacean@programming.devOP
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      JetBrainsMono Nerd Font

      • NoisyFlake@lemm.ee
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        How did I not recognize the font I’ve been using for years, lol. Guess it just looks even better on a HiDPI display.

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    Rust’s semicolon means something like “There’s nothing to see here! Move along! Move along!”, so yeah, you don’t actually need any.

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    Would you rather have semicolons or significant newlines?

    • TadoTheRustacean@programming.devOP
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      Semicolons. Statement’s can be written in multiple lines such as rust io::stdin(&mut foo) .unwrap(). Idk if it would work if the newlines were significant. Also when I paste something, it could be ready hard for the formatter to format it.

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    Well you have a variable foo being mutated. Maybe that’s what they’re for?

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    You can replace return foo with just foo.

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      Not here, because it’s being used as a function argument.

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        Oh wow. I hate this lol

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