• RePsyche@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Commercial hand dryers spread disease by blowing viruses and bacteria all over the place.

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      3 days ago

      False, most diseases don’t transmit by air, so having dry hands helps more in preventing disease transmission than the supposed harm of hand dryers blowing it around.

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          Kind of a selective reading of this paper.

          Taylor et al47 evaluated whether hot air dryers change the levels of airborne microorganisms in the washroom environment. They found that air emitted from the dryer outlet contained fewer microorganisms than air entering the dryers. They also found that levels of microorganisms on the external surfaces of hot air dryers were not different from those on other washroom surfaces. Thus, the authors argued that hot air dryers were appropriate for use in both the health care and food industry. Similarly, Matthews and Newsom48 compared the bacteria aerosols released into the air when drying hands by using 4 different models of hot air dryers and by using paper towels. They found no difference between aerosols liberated by paper towels and 2 models of hot air dryers, whereas the other 2 models of hot air dryers generated fewer aerosols than paper towels. They concluded that hot air dryers were safe from a bacteriologic viewpoint.

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          2 days ago

          I’m gonna nitpick and point out that you’re referring to the results of only one of twelve studies included in the review you linked to. From the abstract of the review:

          This review found little agreement regarding the relative effectiveness of electric air dryers. However, most studies suggest that paper towels can dry hands efficiently, remove bacteria effectively, and cause less contamination of the washroom environment. From a hygiene viewpoint, paper towels are superior to electric air dryers.

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          Bacteria hardly cause illness. Most of us will not have been sick by a bacterial infection since early childhood. People avoid them for being gross - not dangerous which is very fair. Most types of urine are perfectly safe healthwise but I don’t want contact to that either.

          Viruses don’t travel by air but by aerosol. If the air is heated, I can’t see how people can become sick when using them even in public spaces.

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          Dryer compared to paper towels, I was (maybe not clearly enough) comparing using an air dryer to leaving your hands wet. The linked study seems to underline the importance of any form of drying multiple times.

          The study also doesn’t seem to be as conclusive to me as you’re making it out to be. It suggests paper towels might be preferred, but it’s not like you should skip the air dryer because it multiplies bacteria and blows them all over the place.

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    3 days ago

    Okay, I feel you, but my real issue is that I don’t want them to dry my hands, I want several of them mounted high up on the wall so that after a shower I can just rotisserie myself in front of them like a car at the end of a car wash. Or like naked old men at the YMCA.

    The problems are that they blow air that is too hot. You’re going to start sweating, and then why did you shower?
    And also, those things are fucking loud. We’re talking ‘hearing loss’ loud. And if you want to use them on your hair, you’re basically blowing them right into your ears!

    Now, see - I bought this medium-sized shop fan for other purposes. But that fucker blows. And I realized that I could just tuck it away in a corner and stand in front of it after I towel off. Yeah. It might make you a little chilly for a minute, but you won’t spend the next hour getting swamp ass and coffee sweats right as you got clean to start the day.
    Instead, if you finish off your shower with a nice blow job, you’ll pop out of your bedroom crisp and dry, like the finest hotel sheets, ready to take on the day. That first harsh edge of your perfume or cologne will be wafted away. Your not-heat-damaged hair will get that ‘touseled in the wind and lovingly teased to perfection by the delicate fingers of angels’ look that will make everyone give you a second glance. It’ll give your pubes a lovely fluffy feeling, and you won’t stick to your clothes or wind up shoving damp feet into non-breathing shoes!

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      2 days ago

      I don’t share those problems but I do share the vision!

      If you have a 3D printer, library near, or a your own shop, you could make a nozzle for it to funnel the air more like a hand dryer would! I know the wide blast is convenient but it feels like it’d be a fun little minigame at the end of the day with a pleasant jet of drying

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    This is me explaining why bathrooms and showers/tubs should be separate rooms. I think Japan has depictions of this in anime that I’ve seen.

    It just makes no sense to me to have both the shitter and the shower/tub be in the same space. Plumbing-wise, maybe it does make sense. Functionally and me personally, I think it’s stupid them being in the same space/room and it’s just a shortcut they’ve labeled as “standard” when it isn’t ideal.

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      Hard disagree. The only benefit I can think of from having the shitter and the shower in different rooms would be if you live with many different people and have bad time management.

      A wetroom gives you much more open space, and it also has basically everything many people do in the morning: toilet stuff, brush your teeth, take a shower. An added bonus is that it’s much easier to clean.

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      This seems more common in Europe, where the toilet is in its own room down the hall. What I don’t like about that is often that means people walking around the house with unwashed hands as they make their way to a sink. In the US you will find something like that most often where the master/owner’s/primary bathroom has a water closet with the toilet in its own little room in the bathroom. That can be handy for couples and feels like it contains the toilet germs more.

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        Uh, the toilet should absolutely have a sink too. I don’t recall seeing any non-discount setups where this wasn’t the case. For example, my apartment right now has toilet and shower in separate rooms, each with a sink. Euro-based.

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          I haven’t spent extensive time in Europe but I’ve seen that setup three times in Czechia, Austria, and France, which made me think it has some level of commonality

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          I have been to a few apartments like that, typically parties at some friend’s. We’re talking toilet with no sink and no trashcan. One time it was especially disgusting and unlucky: first time at that place, didn’t know it was like that. I was on my period and absolutely had to change the tampon. I had no idea what to do…

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    So you no longer and to fully dry your hands at home?

    You going to switch to rubbing them on your pants after the hand dryer half dries them?