• hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    2 years ago

    Agnosticism was coined because people were afraid of coming out as atheists, but it’s really the same thing.

    Atheist thinks there’s no evidence for god so it doesn’t make sense to believe in one.

    Agnostic thinks there’s no evidence for god, so it’s unlikely there’s one.

    In both cases, the person is science first and would change their opinion if proof was presented but before that they don’t believe in god.

      • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        2 years ago

        Looks like I made a small mistake, but it just takes agnostic closer to atheist

        The English biologist Thomas Henry Huxley coined the word agnostic in 1869, and said "It simply means that a man shall not say he knows or believes that which he has no scientific grounds for professing to know or believe

          • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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            2 years ago

            So what you’re saying is that there’s people who don’t believe that god(s) exist but they believe in it/them anyways?

            Or they believe in some trash evidence for the existence of god

              • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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                2 years ago

                If for example we didn’t know how much time has passed, it would be impossible to estimate with any calculations the temperature - thus agnostic person would conclude there’s no way of knowing, thus believing the coffee is warm or cold is useless.

                Read again that quote I posted earlier

                The English biologist Thomas Henry Huxley coined the word agnostic in 1869, and said "It simply means that a man shall not say he knows or believes that which he has no scientific grounds for professing to know or believe

                The very basis of agnosticism is basing your belief or opinion in verified data. Faith lays on believing without a proof. Those 2 things are the polar opposites, and agnostic theist an oxymoron

                • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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                  2 years ago

                  Those 2 things are the polar opposites, and agnostic theist an oxymoron

                  Expecting people to operate in a purely logic driven manner is a great road to disappointment, and one could argue that it also reveals a deep lack in understanding of your own self. People are not logical beings.

                  Life is not debate club. You can insist all you want that it’s not a logically compatible “belief system” (or however you want to label it). You can argue that there should be a different, more etymologically sound name for it.

                  But regardless of your objections, agnostic theists do exist, and “correct” or not that is what they are called.

                  Edit: I’m not even one of them, I just absolutely loathe this sort of behavior online, especially when discussions of theism and belief systems come up.