• meowMix2525@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    “The Australian Bureau of Statistics reported that 97.2% of men do not report domestic violence to the police, compared to 82.1% of women.[6]”

    Which is exactly why they rely on anonymous survey results rather than police reports to get these statistics, which you would understand if you looked into Excrubulent’s sources before immediately going into defense mode and jumping down their throat because they acknowledged that women being wary of men is not irrational behavior.

    Men in general are more likely than women to be physically violent towards their partners, and women in general are more likely than men to be victims of physical abuse.

    To acknowledge that is not to say all men are abusive, just as it is not to say that all women are abuse survivors. However, to jump in and go “not ALL men!!!” only when violence against women is discussed is to dismiss and silence the trauma experienced by all domestic abuse survivors regardless of gender, assume that there is some “clue” they all missed to avoid being abused, and that anyone who responds to that trauma by being wary of people with similar broad-strokes profiles is treating unfairly everyone that does not exhibit this explicit “clue”. And that is victim-blaming, because there is just no way to know at first glance.

    Those might sound like hefty assumptions but I gotta be honest with you, I truly do not understand what outcome you are trying to reach by rehashing this, over and over, other than silencing discourse that you find damaging to your own ego and self-image, and, further, what rationale you could find to feel personally attacked by this discourse, other than simply not being able to empathize with fellow members of the human race that happen to belong to the opposite gender.

    It is reasonable to be cautious as a woman until you can be sure that the man you are with is safe. You can argue that men should do the same if you truly believe that they experience the same risks. You cannot argue, however, that women are wrong or irrational for behaving this way without making sexist arguments. Which is probably why you people always stop short of making any actual actionable arguments.

    And to clarify, because apparently we are unable to differentiate unless it is said explicitly; I’m talking about you, personally, and people that respond in this way to any mention of domestic abuse with acknowledgement that it is primarily experienced by women at the hands of men. I am not talking about ALL men.

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      Men in general are more likely than women to be physically violent towards their partners, and women in general are more likely than men to be victims of physical abuse.

      OK, suppose I agree, but what does this sentence add to this conversation? “More” doesn’t mean much.

      o acknowledge that is not to say all men are abusive, just as it is not to say that all women are abuse survivors. However, to jump in and go “not ALL men!!!”

      OK, I won’t answer the rest because you are not arguing in good faith.

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        8 months ago

        what does this sentence add to this conversation?

        Lol. That is exactly my point. Thank you for confirming it.

        “More” doesn’t mean much

        In the context of this conversation and supported by the data provided earlier, yes it does.

        you are not arguing in good faith.

        Not really sure what it is about those two sentence fragments that suggest that my argument is not in good faith but I honestly don’t expect you to have any answers anyways beyond base knee-jerk reactions.

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          8 months ago

          Good for you, some day you’ll realize that you can write anything on the Web not making it one inch closer to the reality