The problem is that if you actually have no or insufficient moderation then people just start using the site to post child pornography. And then you visiting what used to be a site you like becomes basically illegal and dangerous, not to mention potentially traumatizing. I’m not exaggerating, there was a small game fan forum site I used to love along with many others, but someone caught on to the fact it was run by just one guy and kept signing up with fake accounts and posting child porn or links to it. Luckily I had already fallen off using the site by then, but one of my Internet friends who still visited it kept me updated on the drama. First everyone normal stopped visiting. Then it eventually got so bad the owner had to shut down the site.
People lack imagination when it comes to what will happen with no moderation. It quickly becomes horrible.
So yea that’s true. But I think there is a big gap between allowing CP vs banning users because the comments are not inline with marvel family entertainment corporation ethos
Absolutely there is, but unfortunately the solution to CP is having moderators who can delete content, and that alone is enough to cause all the problems with moderators. It seems largely intractable to me. The only thing I could see maybe working is some system where moderators can be removed by community vote, but then you rely on systems preventing fake accounts from being created or account age to stop those votes from being botted, etc… I just don’t see how to technically solve the problem of moderators having power to delete things. It’s the classic issue of who watches the watchmen. Humanity has never had a great solution to this.
we do have a solution, it’s called treating people like people and telling them to fuck off when they misbehave, and if moderators don’t stop misbehaving then you move.
i feel like every time people complain about things being bad and oh so difficult to solve there’s a blitheringly obvious social solution that has been used for millions of years that is for some reason being ignored
The problem is that if you actually have no or insufficient moderation then people just start using the site to post child pornography. And then you visiting what used to be a site you like becomes basically illegal and dangerous, not to mention potentially traumatizing. I’m not exaggerating, there was a small game fan forum site I used to love along with many others, but someone caught on to the fact it was run by just one guy and kept signing up with fake accounts and posting child porn or links to it. Luckily I had already fallen off using the site by then, but one of my Internet friends who still visited it kept me updated on the drama. First everyone normal stopped visiting. Then it eventually got so bad the owner had to shut down the site.
People lack imagination when it comes to what will happen with no moderation. It quickly becomes horrible.
So yea that’s true. But I think there is a big gap between allowing CP vs banning users because the comments are not inline with marvel family entertainment corporation ethos
Absolutely there is, but unfortunately the solution to CP is having moderators who can delete content, and that alone is enough to cause all the problems with moderators. It seems largely intractable to me. The only thing I could see maybe working is some system where moderators can be removed by community vote, but then you rely on systems preventing fake accounts from being created or account age to stop those votes from being botted, etc… I just don’t see how to technically solve the problem of moderators having power to delete things. It’s the classic issue of who watches the watchmen. Humanity has never had a great solution to this.
we do have a solution, it’s called treating people like people and telling them to fuck off when they misbehave, and if moderators don’t stop misbehaving then you move.
i feel like every time people complain about things being bad and oh so difficult to solve there’s a blitheringly obvious social solution that has been used for millions of years that is for some reason being ignored