We should not be shaming the consumers, but educating them. The blame is on the companies for making such a terrible product in the first place, the consumer only found out how bad it was after. Sometimes, you can no longer return a product because its X days out of policy.
Not that I don’t completely agree with your sentiment, but to make people start advocating for themselves, you have to make them see you are a friend, and the company is the enemy.
(not that the oop would ever see this post, comment or reply because who on twitter is also using lemmy, but you get it right?)
You don’t have to not use it. You just have to not consistently use the app for 6 months. This is not about the users. Its about the abuse of the users. Regardless of if they did or did not use it for 6 months, the company should not force things upon you at random. I don’t understand the mentality of attacking people who are ignorant of the evils companies do. We all walk different paths, and no one learns without being taught.
If it’s anything like mine, it works just fine without the app. The app just does brush tracking and shit. I don’t need any of that, so I never set it up. But I suspect even if I had, it would still let me use it without being logged into the app.
I suspect the same is true here. That the function of the toothbrush is available regardless of whether it’s logging data to your phone.
Yeah I got mine on sale a few years ago and totally forgot it had that until it showed up on my home assistant when I got a ZigBee USB dongle for my pi
I cannot imagine the value to the company from whatever usage data they get from their toothbrushing app is anything close to the value they get from selling brush heads. So it would be immensely foolish to lock down the toothbrush.
The app is a selling point, and they do it because others do. Without it, they’d lose the portion of the market that wants to track which parts of their mouth they’ve brushed properly to their competitors. But that isn’t their main market, and they’d be idiots to kill their product chasing that niche.
But… how else am I going to connect my toothbrush to my smarthome…?
Just kidding, I use home assistant and my oral-b toothbrush broadcasts using BLE, which Is capture using the oral-b integration. You don’t need to be logged in.
I agree. It’s super dumb to buy IOT toothbrushes that require you to be logged in. Luckily I’m not one of those people, so that doesn’t apply to me. Phew…
Just kidding, I use home assistant and my oral-b toothbrush broadcasts using BLE, which Is capture using the oral-b integration. You don’t need to be logged in.
Oh god I hope this is sarcasm. I’m good with my old, dumb oral-b that does nothing but brush my fucking teeth.
I imagine getting a notification on their phone reminding them if they’ve not brushed their teeth by a set time might help forgetful people to remember to brush their teeth, and if it’s via Home Assistant, which is self-hosted, entirely local, and open-source, there’s no downside other than having to set it up in the first place.
My BLE proxies keep picking up my neighbor’s toothbrush. I was briefly tempted to install the integration just to see what would happen. I didn’t because that’s creepy, but just… what a weird world we live in.
No it hasn’t. Nerds spend all day looking for edge cases with mostly unsuccessful dumb ideas then screech while having the option of 40 different branded regular brushes in every grocery store.
if you’re not on your way to get a refund for that bullshit, then that’s entirely on you and i have no sympathy
that shit exists because people keep fucking buying it
Right? I buy only open-source wifi toothbrushes. Still waiting on the year of the Linux toothbrush, tbh
If you can’t run Doom on it, is it really your toothbrush?
My esp32 vibrator-toothbrush is up on GitHub. Might take it down later, idk.
There’s no one maintaining the repo. St this point, the brush is gonna be archived </3
Can you turn a Raspberry Pi into a toothbrush? lol
Redtooth? 🙃
We should not be shaming the consumers, but educating them. The blame is on the companies for making such a terrible product in the first place, the consumer only found out how bad it was after. Sometimes, you can no longer return a product because its X days out of policy.
Not that I don’t completely agree with your sentiment, but to make people start advocating for themselves, you have to make them see you are a friend, and the company is the enemy.
(not that the oop would ever see this post, comment or reply because who on twitter is also using lemmy, but you get it right?)
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I bought this $50 brush than didn’t use it for 6 months 👌👍
I weep for all 5 of you that happened to.
You don’t have to not use it. You just have to not consistently use the app for 6 months. This is not about the users. Its about the abuse of the users. Regardless of if they did or did not use it for 6 months, the company should not force things upon you at random. I don’t understand the mentality of attacking people who are ignorant of the evils companies do. We all walk different paths, and no one learns without being taught.
If it’s anything like mine, it works just fine without the app. The app just does brush tracking and shit. I don’t need any of that, so I never set it up. But I suspect even if I had, it would still let me use it without being logged into the app.
I suspect the same is true here. That the function of the toothbrush is available regardless of whether it’s logging data to your phone.
But that’s way too rational and doesn’t let me rage, I don’t like it!
Yeah I got mine on sale a few years ago and totally forgot it had that until it showed up on my home assistant when I got a ZigBee USB dongle for my pi
The function is available for now.
I cannot imagine the value to the company from whatever usage data they get from their toothbrushing app is anything close to the value they get from selling brush heads. So it would be immensely foolish to lock down the toothbrush.
The app is a selling point, and they do it because others do. Without it, they’d lose the portion of the market that wants to track which parts of their mouth they’ve brushed properly to their competitors. But that isn’t their main market, and they’d be idiots to kill their product chasing that niche.
But… how else am I going to connect my toothbrush to my smarthome…?
Just kidding, I use home assistant and my oral-b toothbrush broadcasts using BLE, which Is capture using the oral-b integration. You don’t need to be logged in.
I agree. It’s super dumb to buy IOT toothbrushes that require you to be logged in. Luckily I’m not one of those people, so that doesn’t apply to me. Phew…
Oh god I hope this is sarcasm. I’m good with my old, dumb oral-b that does nothing but brush my fucking teeth.
I imagine getting a notification on their phone reminding them if they’ve not brushed their teeth by a set time might help forgetful people to remember to brush their teeth, and if it’s via Home Assistant, which is self-hosted, entirely local, and open-source, there’s no downside other than having to set it up in the first place.
The oral-b integration has been installed by 13,611 users.
My BLE proxies keep picking up my neighbor’s toothbrush. I was briefly tempted to install the integration just to see what would happen. I didn’t because that’s creepy, but just… what a weird world we live in.
How’s your low-level programming ability?
I bet you could update its firmware to one you write.
Ever use one of those kid toothbrushes that plays a song by vibrating your skull? You could do that live from a microphone.
IoT has gotten way out of hand
No it hasn’t. Nerds spend all day looking for edge cases with mostly unsuccessful dumb ideas then screech while having the option of 40 different branded regular brushes in every grocery store.
It’s angry permanently online rage fiends.
People keeping buying it because they don’t know this shit exist. And once they already buy it… Hey, as long as it works…
Exactly