It hits for me when I’m typing it out and I can already read the braindead response they’re going to type and I don’t want to spend another 2 paragraphs preempting the obvious response and I definitely don’t want to wait a few hours/days to explain why they’re still wrong.
They unironically think, genocide, murder, torture and tanks are the correct way to spread the freedom and joy of communism, and for the same reasons, they are not afraid of telling you so. Being federated with them usually leads to an endless stream of pity flame wars. Because they think arguing and insulting other’s intelligence will make their ideology win.
When I write two paragraphs to reply to someone making a stupid, hateful argument and then they reply “I ain’t reading all that” and get a bunch of upvotes for it, I really think about every super-villain story where the bad-guy was trying to destroy the entire world and I feel a sharp pang of understanding.
That’s because Reddit sells anger quite well. Their bots and human instigators work overtime to get you to comment like that. I think all of us Reddit refugees have fallen for this shit.
We’re not doing great on deprogramming ourselves either. The news outlets not only manufacture consent, they also manufacture outrage. This isn’t a new problem either. It’s been going on since at least the Spanish-American war, probably earlier (see also William Randolph Hurst , Joseph Pulitzer).
The average voter is a moron. He believes what he reads in newspapers, feeds his imagination and lulls his repressions on the cinemas, and hopes to break away from his slavery by football pools, cross-word prizes, or spotting the winner of the 3.30.
He is ignorant as no illiterate peasant is ignorant; he has no power of independent thought. He is the prey of panic.
But he has the vote.
The men in power can only govern by stampeding him into wars, playing on his fears and prejudices until he acquiesces in repressive legislation against his obvious interests, playing on his vanity until he is totally blind to his own misery and serfdom.
The alternative method is undisguised dragooning.
In brief, we govern by a mixture of lying and bullying.
This desperate resort to archaic weapons is the heritage of hypocrisy. The theories of Divine Right, aristocratic superiority, the moral order of Nature, are all to-day exploded bluffs. Even those of us who believe in supernatural sanctions for our privileges to browbeat and rob the people no longer delude ourselves with the thought that our victims share our superstitions.
Even dictators understand this. Mussolini has tried to induce the ghost of Ancient Rome to strut the stage in the image of Julius Cæsar; Hitler has invented a farrago of nonsense about Nordics and Aryans; nobody even pretends to believe either, except through the “Will-to-believe.”
And the presence is visibly breaking down everywhere.
They cannot even be galvanised with spasm of pseudo-activity, as still occasionally happens with the dead toads of superstition…
This was from a pamphlet he distributed on the streets, and I’m not going into the problems that may or not, are or aren’t, in the whole thing, but this post seems relevant, lucid, and veritable.
We’ve all fallen for some media/governmental wtfery, myself included. The issue is correcting it.
From a historical point, I found it immensely interesting. I went to the author’s wiki and was equally fascinated he came to the USA to paint, during the first world war, posisitioned himself as pro Germany, while spying for the UK, all the while.
A lot of people have a lot of miscommunication about him, including me, because I’ve always been under the impression that his spying wasn’t of any importance. And maybe it wasn’t, but that send worth investigating, if I ever have time
Aside, I’m interested to know what sort of anarchy the pamphlet is advocating, or the closest fit.
This is why “disable inbox replies” is such a great feature that I wish Lemmy would implement. For when you still have something to add, but it looks like the conversation is going downhill, the thought of further responses is causing anxiety, and you know the right choice is going to be to let the other person have the last word anyway.
The block feature is wonderful for this. I’m starting to use it liberally when I just can’t be bothered to deal with someone anymore. I don’t know if there’s a mute user function as well, but that would at least let them yell into the void instead of being blocked outright.
iirc block on Lemmy is “mute” and it doesn’t work like Reddit with preventing any interaction with any posts or comment threads you started (which I’m glad about, Reddit’s block imo is a horrible way of doing it).
Personally I don’t like the block feature for this for two reasons:
it only targets one user, normally it’s more “I want to stop talking about this for now” than not wanting to talk to one person in particular
I won’t see anything from that person in the future, which isn’t what I want unless they are really awful, just want to be done with that specific comment thread despite having some degree of respect for the people in it
And I’m the opposite. When I block someone, it’s because I’m sick and tired of that one person in particular and never want anything to do with them ever again. And for my own protection, I don’t want them to be able to see me or interact with my comments ever again, regardless of whether I’ll see that interaction or not.
Yeah, my personal experience is the opposite where I find myself having to outright block people because I generally don’t have an issue until outright blocking them is needed.
It would be great to have a “mute post/thread/comment” option that just stops any reply notifications for that specific item of yours. That way you don’t have to select specific people to mute/block and it doesn’t affect anything outside of that one specific comment of yours.
It hits for me when I’m typing it out and I can already read the braindead response they’re going to type and I don’t want to spend another 2 paragraphs preempting the obvious response and I definitely don’t want to wait a few hours/days to explain why they’re still wrong.
Me when I realize the person I’m commenting to is from hexbear.
Tank you!
I still don’t know what the controversy is about with hexbear.
They unironically think, genocide, murder, torture and tanks are the correct way to spread the freedom and joy of communism, and for the same reasons, they are not afraid of telling you so. Being federated with them usually leads to an endless stream of pity flame wars. Because they think arguing and insulting other’s intelligence will make their ideology win.
Ahh. Seems on par for the whole “lemmy’s turning into reddit” thing.
and thus federated platforms show a strength: defederate with the trash, and the rest get better quality posters! … in theory.
Or you say fuck it and send the comment, but you refresh the page and he’s downvoted it faster than a human being could have read it lol
When I write two paragraphs to reply to someone making a stupid, hateful argument and then they reply “I ain’t reading all that” and get a bunch of upvotes for it, I really think about every super-villain story where the bad-guy was trying to destroy the entire world and I feel a sharp pang of understanding.
That’s because Reddit sells anger quite well. Their bots and human instigators work overtime to get you to comment like that. I think all of us Reddit refugees have fallen for this shit.
We’re not doing great on deprogramming ourselves either. The news outlets not only manufacture consent, they also manufacture outrage. This isn’t a new problem either. It’s been going on since at least the Spanish-American war, probably earlier (see also William Randolph Hurst , Joseph Pulitzer).
You can’t just post that without a source 😡
/s
https://hermetic.com/crowley/the-scientific-solution-of-the-problem-of-government/index
He is ignorant as no illiterate peasant is ignorant; he has no power of independent thought. He is the prey of panic.
But he has the vote.
The alternative method is undisguised dragooning.
In brief, we govern by a mixture of lying and bullying.
This desperate resort to archaic weapons is the heritage of hypocrisy. The theories of Divine Right, aristocratic superiority, the moral order of Nature, are all to-day exploded bluffs. Even those of us who believe in supernatural sanctions for our privileges to browbeat and rob the people no longer delude ourselves with the thought that our victims share our superstitions.
Even dictators understand this. Mussolini has tried to induce the ghost of Ancient Rome to strut the stage in the image of Julius Cæsar; Hitler has invented a farrago of nonsense about Nordics and Aryans; nobody even pretends to believe either, except through the “Will-to-believe.”
And the presence is visibly breaking down everywhere.
They cannot even be galvanised with spasm of pseudo-activity, as still occasionally happens with the dead toads of superstition…
This was from a pamphlet he distributed on the streets, and I’m not going into the problems that may or not, are or aren’t, in the whole thing, but this post seems relevant, lucid, and veritable.
We’ve all fallen for some media/governmental wtfery, myself included. The issue is correcting it.
From a historical point, I found it immensely interesting. I went to the author’s wiki and was equally fascinated he came to the USA to paint, during the first world war, posisitioned himself as pro Germany, while spying for the UK, all the while.
A lot of people have a lot of miscommunication about him, including me, because I’ve always been under the impression that his spying wasn’t of any importance. And maybe it wasn’t, but that send worth investigating, if I ever have time
Aside, I’m interested to know what sort of anarchy the pamphlet is advocating, or the closest fit.
This is why “disable inbox replies” is such a great feature that I wish Lemmy would implement. For when you still have something to add, but it looks like the conversation is going downhill, the thought of further responses is causing anxiety, and you know the right choice is going to be to let the other person have the last word anyway.
The block feature is wonderful for this. I’m starting to use it liberally when I just can’t be bothered to deal with someone anymore. I don’t know if there’s a mute user function as well, but that would at least let them yell into the void instead of being blocked outright.
iirc block on Lemmy is “mute” and it doesn’t work like Reddit with preventing any interaction with any posts or comment threads you started (which I’m glad about, Reddit’s block imo is a horrible way of doing it).
Personally I don’t like the block feature for this for two reasons:
And I’m the opposite. When I block someone, it’s because I’m sick and tired of that one person in particular and never want anything to do with them ever again. And for my own protection, I don’t want them to be able to see me or interact with my comments ever again, regardless of whether I’ll see that interaction or not.
Same, the main thing I’m getting at is, most of the time it’s not like that
Yeah, my personal experience is the opposite where I find myself having to outright block people because I generally don’t have an issue until outright blocking them is needed.
It would be great to have a “mute post/thread/comment” option that just stops any reply notifications for that specific item of yours. That way you don’t have to select specific people to mute/block and it doesn’t affect anything outside of that one specific comment of yours.
Yup, though on the upside notifications seem to only work half the time here.