I mean, for now it’s not about shapes.

But there are people out there with successful movements that the Earth is flat, and that 2X2=3 and shit like that, it’s barely a matter of time before some satire-turned-subculture rises for their 15 minutes of fame for denying shapes exist.

Nobody here knows what they’re doing.

What you consider legal now, could be considered grounds for arrest or worse if the world changes. And the world is always changing.

That said, if you have no interest in torrenting files or starting insurrections out of your basement, a VPN isn’t going to do much for you. They’re barely effective for actually protecting you if the actual government wanted to go after you for something and your data and personal info is already compromised by the fact that you’re here, chatting on the internet. If you just browse social media it will give you a bigger headache to have it on since most sites now block VPN traffic and reddit will even permanently shadowban you if you log in under a VPN.

This is fine advice but doesn’t answer OP’s question, only adds to it.

In reality, they likely inspired each other.

When Event Horizon came out, Games Workshop was still a somewhat niche hobby that few people had heard of, they were still developing lore.

I imagine the writers saw some ideas about the “dangers of the warp” and decided to incorporate those ideas, then games workshop saw the movie and was like “Hell yeah, that’s what we’re talking about, lets lean into this warp shit even harder.”

Yes, then the third movie in the trilogy “Triangle” (2009)

I can’t imagine people on Lemmy of all places having enthusiasm for socializing and conversations.

You like the novelty of it, but you would sit there alone and imagine having friends and then you would imagine you know how to actually listen to other people instead of just waiting for an opportunity to talk about linux or indie steam games.

I am getting there.

I’ve been fighting the good fight online and off for decades now, and people have broadly gotten so dense and people’s worst behavior and worst manners are now considered identities and rights, and it’s so massively annoying that I have grown tired of telling people to shut the fuck up about shit that either harms other people or harms themselves.

Now everyone you interact with is not trying to interact with you specifically, but trying to make something they can clip, snip or appeal to an audience with for views, upvotes and attention. They don’t care about exchange, they care about getting attention from their peers.

At least in real-life (whatever that means) people are on their best behavior when you’re larger than them. I really get how some cranky old dudes are always just looking for a fight.

The anonymity of the internet combined with it’s openness and freedom to shit on any conversation and muddy every water and poison any well, has broadly done more harm than good, and I am really weighing the value it has for marginalized people and the like over the overall harm it’s doing TO marginalized people and the like. I am tired of running defense for people who shit on my help, I am tired of having to argue about the most basic bullshit like empathy and civility or choosing to not be civil when required, because there’s always either some 13-year-old who just learned they can be treated like an adult online, or some tweet-farmer in India pretending to be from my country, doing their best to take over the conversation and make it about themselves and their absolutely psychotic world-views or rage-bait.

Broadly, the worst people in the world bring out the worst in others, and that’s far more infectious than good people being good because our species is all about survival, and we fight to survive.

We probably need to take away the freedom honesty. Just like China was forward thinking and employed a social credit score and took away privacy and outside influence from their internet, it sounds horrific but I totally get it. We probably will do that all over the world when this reaches a head. I don’t trust our current government institutions in the west to do it right, but the internet is killing our society, people aren’t having relationships anymore, people aren’t making friends, people just imagine the worst about each other and retreat to private echo chambers and AI chatbots that suck them off.

I don’t even know what you’re going off about and I am not dedicating another minute to trying to decode why you sound like a child who had their ice cream taken away when all you’ve done here is whinge at people who seem to care a lot more than you.

You’re doing a terrible job making your point, to the degree that all I can take away from your chain of headache-inducing rhetorical questions here is that you don’t like being made to feel feelings by strangers, and honestly, that’s a skill issue.

I’m getting the vibe here that you think your political involvement is supposed to either improve your life or that you’re responsible directly for positive or negative outcomes.

If you’re going to take part in a democratic process, you are assuming some level of responsibility for the outcome, but you share that with a lot of other people whether you like it or not, it’s a much larger thing than just your vote or your involvement, it’s spread across a sociological grouping, it’s fairly abstract so you shouldn’t have feelings about it, it’s just what it means to be part of a larger system.

If the idea of that responsibility bothers you, it’s a good place to think about why and what you could do to feel better about your involvement, win or lose.

I’m not following what your line of questioning is supposed to be asking or proving in this thread.

Everything you do, at home or work, is shaped by political decisions that people have made in your name, whether or not you want to be directly involved in the making of those decisions is up to you, but you’re still part of the political system by using it and benefiting from it and paying your taxes.

I feel like they’re trolling tbh.

edit: yah just unhinged whinging about personal feelings, I blocked.

when i poop is that political?

The price of the toilet you use, the cost and coverage of the sewage system used to take the poop away, the question of whether or not you need to clock out of work to do that poop, what happens to the wastewater from that toilet and how your tax dollars are spent maintaining that system, are all political questions that others who had involvement with the system worked out before you, so you can shit without thinking about it and so your community doesn’t end up with cholera.

But I promise, if anyone decided to change any of that because it became apparent people “don’t really care about politics” you would notice pretty fast.

The only way you can escape politics is if you’re literally the only person on a planet.

It’s fucking absurd that we’ve let our country run so very far from reflecting the people’s will that we can’t even talk to each other about the thing we’re all supposed to do to supposedly continue selecting that representation.

I used to listen them on long drives home at night when I was younger too, I honestly cannot remember anything about the show at all other than freaky callers with obviously made-up stories and Adam and Drew would sometimes stop the call to listen to the caller’s chirping smoke detector.

It was a simpler time, we didn’t build whole ideological movements around a couple of goofballs on the radio, most people didn’t take it seriously so the show was bad, but harmless. Like much of the media of the 80’s-90’s.

Somewhere along the line we started outsourcing this kind of entertainment to interactive forums and message boards and from there people started festering and ruminating on this shit because suddenly they had access to thousands of different voices to find someone to validate their feelings, and that just curdled all of society and turned the most innocuous bullshit into weapon’s grade social manipulation. Now everyone hates each other because everyone only looks at absurd exaggerations of reality and then isolates themselves from even proving themselves wrong.

You may have misread the instructions for the project.

The actual blight/parasite that caused the potato famine from what I’ve seen looked a lot different, it was more like the whole thing would be rotted out and slimey on the inside due to worms chewing around in there.

Although I may be mixing up several different potato famines.

I’ve gone through very similar experiences, I actually never pulled out and ended up basically losing everything. Started over a few years back.

I mean, it all fucking sucks but I think after actually facing the worst-cases and living through it, you feel far less anxious about a lot of the smaller stuff.

But if I could recommend one thing, it would be consider looking into therapy ahead of time and making time for it. Being a caregiver and having the full responsibility on your shoulders to make things work is more than traumatic, it can destroy you. PTSD is a constant presence in my life and it doesn’t work like media portrays it, it’s just a constant, gnawing anxiety and despair that doesn’t go away even when things are fine. Your brain keeps looking for reasons for the feelings and throws you all kinds of narratives that you have to manually address and squash down every day or it will spiral in your mind and get worse and worse. Not fun. Would not recommend.