I don’t think that they think that. I do think that they think you don’t deserve a house if you work at McDonalds.
Or health care, or food and clothing
This exactly. Their excuse is that these jobs are for teenagers, meaning that they should be exploited.
They call it a job for teenagers, but will actually have a meltdown if mcdonalds isn’t open during school hours. God help if they have to wait 2 minutes because staff is low
Why do you think they’re rolling back child labor laws? Karen just has to have her McFlurry at 9am
I Love every person on tv that hates something, its a women around 50-70 year old xD.
Why would a teenager need a house anyway ?
No one can help when they are born.
Except maybe time travellers
I don’t know the doctor doesn’t even really get to pick much the tardis just takes him whenever
You can still buy a house by working at McDonald’s. All you need to do is leaving your country. Here’s a nice house in Tanjung Pinang, Bintan, Indonesia.
25000 euros.
https://www.rumah123.com/properti/tanjung-pinang/hos18668655/?price-unit-type=metersquare
How much does McDonald’s in Indonesia pay?
I doubt it’s enough to buy a 25000 euro house. And if you’re talking about McDonald’s in the US then I’m guessing not much is left over after food and rent in order to save the 25k.
Never been in USA, but working at McDonald’s here in Belgium while living at your parents, with 2000 euros net from a minimum wage job… Yeah after a year you can buy the house that I showed.
I’m sure you can work while living with your parents.
Having the 25k euros is only step one. Afterwards you need to build up capital for passive income when you are in Indonesia.
The cost of living is very low. the median net worth in Indonesia is 5000 euros. So with your starting capital, you’ll be ahead of the curve.
With your English, you have some niches you can do. Like working for English speaking companies. Local or from your computer.
most people that do this, go to Bali. But if you want cheaper areas, the place I showed is also do-able.
Bali is popular because more people there speak English. For Americans, the Philippines is popular because English is an official language.
My wife’s indonesian so if she wants to, we’ll go there.
likely not, because I prefer Belgium. But I’m also not complaining about the high housing prices here in Belgium. I know why they are high. It’s because people want to live here.
Same reason why housing is more expensive in Bali… People want to live there.
Back when I was working, I had a job that paid close to 3x what McDonald’s was paying at the time. I could barely afford a studio apartment. And that was 5-10 years ago, it’s even worse now here in the US.
Sucks for immigrants. I’m born rich
Median net wealth per adult in Belgium is 250k euros. It’s because the housing stock is owned by families living in them. Their kids inherit that.
“Sucks for immigrants” isn’t even true. Social mobility is great here. Free education for them. But buying a house will indeed be very expensive for them. They have to pay for the current day economy. The economy that is attractive to immigrants.
Housing will always be expensive in a good economy.
Look at Singapore, it’s all owned by the country, and it’s expensive as hell.
LOL I was born into a middle class family with at least one generation on each side born in the US. Dad worked at the local factory, mom was stay-at-home, had a dog, nice house, and two cars – living the American Dream.
Then all the factory jobs went away, I couldn’t handle college, and I job hopped for a while and got lucky landing a decent paying gig that lasted for 13 years until I went on disability. Up until then I was barely making ends meet living in a studio apartment with a used hand-me-down car that I got when my grandfather passed away.
Now I’m on SSDI and live in a subsidized studio apartment and rely on the city bus for transportation to appointments. Living the dream.
What’s the value of your parents their house and how many siblings do you have.
You’re pretty fucked being American in that situation.
No clue what my parents’ house could be worth, they’re still living in it too. I do know they paid something like $30,000 for it in the 70’s and it might be worth 5-10x more than that now – if not more due to inflation. Cars were also $5000 or so then, and now the average price of a car is $30k-$50k on the low end.
Due to…several traumatic issues and for my own mental health…living with them isn’t an option and now that I’m on SSDI I can’t really take any of their money or it messes with my SSDI and I went through too much for too long to do anything to risk it within my control (government shenanigans these days might leave me without income and a home but that’s out of my control now). I have one sibling who has a family of their own much like how it was when we were kids but they are struggling to make ends meet in this economy too.
Or if you are the CEO there.
Buy McDonald’s stock, fire the CEO and hire someone cheap.
Boomer: What?! Just walk into the building, go up to the receptionist or bossman, and demand to be interviewed for a job, and fill out an application form. Refuse to leave without a job offer. They’ll be so impressed by your dedication, they can’t do anything else, but to hire you! What are you waiting for?
In reality many people who were boomers lived in shacks, some with no plumbing and dirt floors, until the 60’s when liberal economics began to fully kick in. Reagan, and Republicans have schemed very hard to bring back those "good old days’. Try reading some actual history of that time. Bonus, if you actually talk to a boomer who lived through hard times.
“when I was your age I made -half- what they’re paying at mcdonalds now, and I paid for a car, a house, college, and and supported my wife and three kids with it!”
me: blood pressure increases
I’ve found it effective to follow this with, “yes, now you’re starting to understand the problem”
“Yeah and houses were 1/20th of what they are now. Sit down and shut up grandma, you stupid old racist cunt.”
When you were my age you could buy a house for less than the deposit on a rented bedroom.
When you were my age
…when rich people eventually get medical immortality, that can be used both ways!
Immortality doesn’t protect you from Luigi.
We really need more Luigis.
I know old americans are the one saying this but this is not at all an americans problem. I work in an office, I make very good money, don’t pay rent amd have no kids so all my money should go to investing right? Well I bought a flat (not even a house) and I pay 80% of my salary (i’ll say it again it’s considered very very good) in a short mortage. It wont last 30 years but fuck if this is not extremely expensive
If only I wouldn’t eat so much avocado toast.
Lol, change it to “buy groceries and pay rent” and it still works
Meanwhile Gen X:
Forgotten as usual. 😉
At least they let you take the debt we just did without? I dunno we’re both fucked
How much could a house cost? $10?
I don’t know why, but I really love the idea of representing Millenials as Shrek and Gen Z as Donkey, and that’s how I’m gonna see us from now on.
You guys have fun fuckin’ that dragon. I’m gonna go angrily bathe in my filth pool. ❤️
It blows my mind that gen z is old enough to be stuck in this mess with us.
The only chance I ever had to own a home was taking over the one I grew up in from my parents. I couldn’t raise my kids there though. The neighborhood went from being a nice little mining town to meth as currency town.
Good luck you guys. Maybe y’all can work on the boys following Andrew Tate off of a cliff and get this world going in the right direction.
Shit, in 40 years us millennials will finally be old enough to hold elected office. Hahahahaha
“That’s only a job for high schoolers”
Also, “fuck you, got mine”
“So you want McDonalds to close during school hours?”
Only if you can afford a 50% down payment of 2 million.
How I bought a house: Don’t learn to drive, rent a bedroom for like 8 years to save up a deposit.
Where I live is considered incredibly cheap by city people.
Do people on Lemmy think that there was a time when one could afford a house on fast food worker wages?
um yes? because it’s the truth? do some research before posting man. even if you were alive back then that doesn’t mean you knew wtf was up everywhere in the country with every demographic.
There were houses in the US that were only 25k just before the great recession. Not everywhere certainly, small houses in major cities, we used to have cheap houses not too long ago. It was only after COVID that all the houses went up to a national minimum because of WFH and other things.
You are gullible
no, i just think i don’t like dealing with idiots like yourself who’s perogotive is to abscond anything you read that makes you feel any cognitive dissonance.
i have nothing good to say to those who can’t engage in good-faith discussion, like yourself. you’re part of the problem with the world nowadays.
Wow what a well thought out and detailed rebuttal.
Gottem
You mean a full time wage?
Yes. Full time fast food worker wages
In the 1980s, it was possible for a McDonald’s worker to afford a house on their salary alone due to lower housing costs and higher relative purchasing power. For example, in 1980, the average home price was around $47,200, and minimum wage workers could feasibly save for a down payment with disciplined budgeting[5].
Today, this scenario is nearly impossible. Housing costs have skyrocketed while wages have stagnated. A full-time McDonald’s worker earning $8.75/hour would gross about $13,811 annually, far below the income needed to afford even modest housing without spending more than 30% of their income on rent[2][4].
Citations: [1] Is it possible to move out parents house with McDonald’s income? https://www.reddit.com/r/McDonaldsEmployees/comments/15c54ah/is_it_possible_to_move_out_parents_house_with/ [2] Paycheck for a McDonald’s worker is very small. - Upworthy https://www.upworthy.com/heres-a-paycheck-for-a-mcdonalds-worker-heres-my-jaw-dropping-to-the-floor-ex1 [3] Mcdonald’s Real Estate: How They Really Make Their Money - https://www.wallstreetsurvivor.com/mcdonalds-beyond-the-burger/ [4] [PDF] Unaccommodating: Rental Housing Wage in Canada https://www.policyalternatives.ca/wp-content/uploads/attachments/Unaccommodating - Rental Wage in Canada.pdf [5] Could You Buy a House Working at McDonald’s in the 1980s? https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/could-you-buy-house-working-mcdonalds-1980s [6] [PDF] Salaried-Employee-Handbook-Office.pdf - McDonald’s https://www.mcdonalds.com/content/dam/sites/uk/nfl/pdf/uploads/careers/Salaried-Employee-Handbook-Office.pdf [7] How to work at McDonald’s and still become a millionaire - CNBC https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/09/how-to-work-at-mcdonalds-and-still-become-a-millionaire.html
Oh can not wait for the reply to this, as if we do not have examples of this in living memory.
Its silly but we are seeing more and more of this crap, where the past can not be the way it was since the way it is today is not like the way it was. Some sort of odd american static impression of the world around us.
The confusion is that fast food jobs have always been for kids. Not permanent jobs. Non kids work them now because of the millions of blue collar jobs in the manufacturing sector that left the country over the past decades. Those were the jobs that paid enough for you to buy a house. I wonder what policies might bring back those good paying jobs in manufacturing might be
