• rtxn@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    You block ads because of privacy.

    I block ads to cause the greatest amount of financial damage, purely out of spite.

    We are not the same.

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        Yeah that’s my whole thing with ads, I understand monetization is necessary but it’s gotten so far out of fucking hand

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          I agree. Small, non-intrusive banner ads with an easy close button are fine. They get the message across without getting in anyone’s way.

          The problem is the ads that stop you from doing anything for the best part of a minute. I don’t see how anyone has ever been convinced to buy whatever product is being advertised by these, but somehow, they’re the ones that are everywhere.

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    Steal. To take another person’s property without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.

    Take. To remove someone or something from a particular place.

    I’m not taking anything, I’m merely creating a copy of it. I would 100% download a car if that meant cloning someone’s car for free and without damaging the original one.

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      This doesn’t get said enough. Piracy is only damaging if I would have paid to get the thing in the first place. If I’m pirating something that I would have avoided entirely had I needed to pay, literally no one is taking any losses.

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        I don’t understand your logic. You deem piracy to be “not theft” if it’s so low quality that you would waste your time watching it for free.

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            If I’m pirating something that I would have avoided entirely had I needed to pay, literally no one is taking any losses.

            What does this statement mean then? Why would you pirate something if you had no interest in it? If it’s interesting enough to download, it must have been worth something to you.

            I think everyone here is just trying to justify piracy because it doesn’t meet some archaic definition of the word “theft”, when in reality, the definitions of counterfeiting and unauthorized access to intellectual property are 100% met.

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              Yes, but for me it’s just not worth the price that the official distribution channels are asking for it. If I didn’t have a free way to consume the content, I would skip it, and I wouldn’t lose anything by doing that. There is plenty of other content to consume, a lot of it legally for free.

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    Well, since Pirates copy rather than take, surely they’re creating value everytime they make a copy of something (were you had one, now you have two), unless that something had no value to begin with.

    Be a a Pirate: It’s good for the Economy!

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    obligatory “if buying isn’t owning, then pirating isn’t stealing”

    and also there’s a moral argument for data preservation here somewhere

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    If those corporations are allowed to do it, then so are we.

    Even the corporation that made all those “You wouldn’t download a car” ads are now downloading actors for their movies.

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      In what world is getting something for free that the original owners are charging money for not theft?

      You engaged in a TOS with a service provider. The terms of your ownership were not negotiated and yet you tacitly agreed to the contract.

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        The one we live in, where software is being sold to consumers with terms of service that say customers don’t own the software they bought.

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          Right. You license it. Owning something isn’t the be all end all of commerce. Just admit you like getting free stuff.

          Do you complain about the Theme Park getting to keep all of its rides when you leave at the end of the day? You paid money to be there, surely you should get to take part of the park home with you.

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    I don’t know why some people sugar coat it.

    I’d pirate anyway because I don’t wanna spend money, and so would a lot of people who instead choose to hide behind excuses.

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      It also depends on who’s behind the product. Good indie game with one or a few developers - never. Adobe - I consider it a moral obligation.