In general, I support your stance. The devil is in the details, though, so to speak. You can only get so much evidece first-hand, and need to believe others about the rest. How do you distinguish fraudsters from honest bet mistaken people from people knowing the truth?
It is weird the feds admit UAPs are real now. Of course they don’t say “it’s aliens” but then again we wouldn’t yet know, it could or could not be. Maybe China has sufficiently advanced tech that we think shouldn’t be possible, maybe they’re aliens, maybe extra dimensional, maybe under the water somewhere, but what we do know is that there does appear to be something strange in the neighborhood.
No it isn’t. While it’s as easy as ever to fake it, the ease of sharing evidence these days makes denying that “weird stuff sometimes happens” much harder than it used to be, and it is such an obvious claim that denying it doesn’t serve much purpose.
but what we do know is that there does appear to be something strange in the neighborhood.
Usually, when it happens often enough that we can actually investigate rather than just saying “this one time weird fluke in our cameras was weird,” it turns out to be “the atmosphere is bendier than most people think” or “wow, what weird things your shadow can do sometimes.”
I don’t know what it is, but I also don’t know what it’s not. And neither does the Navy or anyone else. Those videos are still in the “one weird fluke” category (unless the Navy figured it out later and didn’t tell anyone).
The thing is that it could be “shadows” or something similar mundane, but it could also be some kind of civilian drone or something combined with a software glitch that made the instrumentation report the numbers wrong. It could be a piece of experimental or otherwise new technology that’s actually behaving the way the computer thinks. Nobody knows, and without more evidence of some kind, nobody will.
And sure, it could be aliens. But the prior probability on that one makes it exceedingly unlikely compared to the less exciting and more mundane explanations.
Those FLIR thermal videos from far off naval ships spotting strange objects in the sky that in some cases do things our airships cannot, like submerge in the ocean and maneuver in ways that would physically break our planes, can’t be showing conventional shadows, unless you mean something else by “shadows” I guess.
I didn’t say it was aliens, but it would honestly be weirder if it was “shadows” on those videos.
I mean, we don’t know what they did, only what it looked like they did. If whatever caused the “thing” in the videos wasn’t where the sensors thought it was, then it also wasn’t doing what it looked like it was.
In general, I support your stance. The devil is in the details, though, so to speak. You can only get so much evidece first-hand, and need to believe others about the rest. How do you distinguish fraudsters from honest bet mistaken people from people knowing the truth?
Logic and reasoning preferably with scientific evidence.
Sort of like how you can only get so much evidence for aliens or Bigfoot and you just have to trust the conspiracy theorists about the rest
It is weird the feds admit UAPs are real now. Of course they don’t say “it’s aliens” but then again we wouldn’t yet know, it could or could not be. Maybe China has sufficiently advanced tech that we think shouldn’t be possible, maybe they’re aliens, maybe extra dimensional, maybe under the water somewhere, but what we do know is that there does appear to be something strange in the neighborhood.
No it isn’t. While it’s as easy as ever to fake it, the ease of sharing evidence these days makes denying that “weird stuff sometimes happens” much harder than it used to be, and it is such an obvious claim that denying it doesn’t serve much purpose.
Usually, when it happens often enough that we can actually investigate rather than just saying “this one time weird fluke in our cameras was weird,” it turns out to be “the atmosphere is bendier than most people think” or “wow, what weird things your shadow can do sometimes.”
Idk if you have seen the videos released by the navy during covid, but it ain’t shadows.
I don’t know what it is, but I also don’t know what it’s not. And neither does the Navy or anyone else. Those videos are still in the “one weird fluke” category (unless the Navy figured it out later and didn’t tell anyone).
The thing is that it could be “shadows” or something similar mundane, but it could also be some kind of civilian drone or something combined with a software glitch that made the instrumentation report the numbers wrong. It could be a piece of experimental or otherwise new technology that’s actually behaving the way the computer thinks. Nobody knows, and without more evidence of some kind, nobody will.
And sure, it could be aliens. But the prior probability on that one makes it exceedingly unlikely compared to the less exciting and more mundane explanations.
Those FLIR thermal videos from far off naval ships spotting strange objects in the sky that in some cases do things our airships cannot, like submerge in the ocean and maneuver in ways that would physically break our planes, can’t be showing conventional shadows, unless you mean something else by “shadows” I guess.
I didn’t say it was aliens, but it would honestly be weirder if it was “shadows” on those videos.
I mean, we don’t know what they did, only what it looked like they did. If whatever caused the “thing” in the videos wasn’t where the sensors thought it was, then it also wasn’t doing what it looked like it was.