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    11 months ago

    Elon Musk loves to speak confidently about shit he knows nothing about. This leads to him being a confident speaker on every topic… I just wish we could figure out a way to shut him up.

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        The rockets are fine. SpaceX has a team specifically designed to distract Musk and keep him away from the actual work on the rockets. Tesla didn’t have that though. That’s how we ended up with that lame presentation with the weird “S3XY” acromin. That was really the point I realized that he was just an idiot frat boy with too much money. He really is his own worst enemy.

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          the thing about spacex is everything they do is because of nasa and government.

          the only thing spacex has going for it is the fact that they can spend a billion dollars exploding a rocket five times before it slightly works the sixth whereas the government can’t do that.

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            As someone who does know about this field, and absolute despise Musk, that’s not quite true. SpaceX is very successful thanks to help from the US government, and despite the influence of Musk, but also because they are a team of very competent people who have actually innovated and pushed the boundaries of launch vehicles. To say they have nothing going for them and are being propped up by the government is not at all accurate, and they have been much more succesful than traditional government contractors.

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              To say they have nothing going for them and are being propped up by the government is not at all accurate

              That isn’t what they’re saying though, is it? They’re saying that SpaceX has the ability to fail more than NASA, because they’re not a government organization funded solely by taxes.

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                Admittedly I think the biggest failures that hurt NASA were incidents when people, not rockets, blew up. It’ll be interesting to see if things change if/when there is a death from a SpaceX rocket.

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                  People die in work related incidents all the time. The only thing different about deaths from NASA incidents is that they are (usually) spectacular incidents (like massive explosions or cabin fires…not good things, just stunning) and high-profile.

                  SpaceX does well because they basically ignore Elon.

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          What’s your source on the spacex team distracting him? I can’t find anything supporting that. I do find some interviews from anonymous employees saying it’s calmer now that he’s so focused on twitter.

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          One example that stuck with me is that he said some shit along the lines of 80% of Twitter’s microservices being superfluous and he’ll be shutting them off.

          Yes, the dev teams just spent 4/5 of their time building shit no one asked for. It just annoys me so much, because anyone with basic reasoning should be able to work out that this cannot possibly be the case, but it’s easy to give it the benefit of the doubt.

          Well, except that many, many Twitter outages followed.

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            I’ve heard horror stories on the programming subreddits of incompetent managers that require their employees to write X new lines of code per week. Those code bases probably could have huge chunks taken off.

            Clearly that hasn’t happened here

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            Well, except that many, many Twitter outages followed.

            Yeah. As a software dev, it was pretty awkward explaining this to colleagues who rely on Twitter/X.

            “It sounds like you think Twitter is a software company and that Elon is utterly unqualified to run a software company. That can’t possibly be true, right?”

            …Then we end up doing the “Concerned Padme” meme…

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          When he took over twitter there was a bunch of stuff he was spouting about things like Twitter’s stack needing a full rewrite and such. Going so far as to fire the engineer that challenged him on it during a live spaces thing if I recall correctly.

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            Oh. This post’s image has him talking types in January and the “obligatory” image above has someone saying he’s been talking software in December, so I thought maybe Musk has been spewing about software for a few weeks or something.

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              December from '22 not '23. The image was from a few months after he took over twitter and was still going on about that stuff and how it was doing all these useless things that needed to be removed or rewritten. I just remembered another one about how he was going on about a single request to twitter causing thousands of RPCs or something? I think that’s not really unheard of in a microservices infrastructure and it’s not like they’d be synchronous. There’s probably tons of calls that go to things like tracking, analytics, or cross DC sharing I would imagine for such a large and high volume service like twitter.

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            He also seems to have the idea that the best developer is the one who produces the most code. That shows a pretty major lack of understanding of how software development works. Sometimes the best day is when you produce negative amounts of code.

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    I tend to think people shit on Musk more than they should, but holy shit does it bug me when a CEO talks about engineering problems with such bravado.

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      He talked about electric cars. I don’t know anything about cars, so when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.

      Then he talked about rockets. I don’t know anything about rockets, so when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.

      Now he talks about software. I happen to know a lot about software & Elon Musk is saying the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard anyone say, so when people say he’s a genius I figure I should stay the hell away from his cars and rockets.

      Rod Hilton about Elon Musk.

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      The guy is an idiot who LITERALLY got fired for incompetence as CEO.in the past. He is a scammer and should be treated as such, so no, people aren’t shitting too much on him. If anything, they aren’t shitting enough, there are still way too many oblivious fan boys out there that think he is a genius. He’s not.

      Anything he says that makes sense engineering wise usually comes from someone on his team, anything else is just outrageously stupid, and clearly from his “genius mind” like this blurb/cert/tweet whatever the hell its supposed to be called.

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    Yes the compiler/interpreter can figure it out on the fly, that’s what we mean by untyped languages. And as stated both have their merits and their faults.

    Elon doesn’t know what the words mean and just chimes in with his AI future BS.

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      Yes the compiler/interpreter can figure it out on the fly, that’s what we mean by untyped languages.

      Are there untyped languages? You probably meant ‘dynamically typed languages’.

      But even statically typed languages can figure out most types for you from the context - it’s called ‘type inference’.

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        Most of my code is untyped. First I type it, then I realize it’s all wrong and use backspace to untype it.

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      I was one of those. In my defense, 2012-2015(ish) he really was doing cool things. Tesla and Space X were super innovative and brought optimism. Then a time traveler stepped on a bug, the whole Thailand pedophile fiasco happened and it went downhill from there. Now we have yokes, dumb turn signals and the whole cybertruck, not to mention removing ultrasound sensors to save a few cents and the whole Twitter debacle. At least space X is still somehow unfucked?

      In case it helps… I’m sorry.

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          The thing is after Peter Thiel made him a multi-billionaire against his best efforts, he did actually put that capital into industries that desperately needed someone to prove to the boomers that you could, and should, make money in them.

          There’s a whole lot to say about his credit stealing, ego, and the system itself, but the fact remains he does have an eye for talent (that he can exploit for gain)

          So, sure, he was just the bankroll, but that doesn’t mean the companies didn’t desperately need that.

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      its amazing how elon was once so milquetoast and inoffensive that he was a guest on the big bang theory and then he was like you know whats good? nazis.

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      Musk wants Twitter to fail. He bid on it for a laugh and when his bid was accepted he tried to get out of it.

      They made him buy it and he’s been butthurt ever since. He wants everyone involved to suffer, because then the decision to hold him accountable was a bad decision.

      He doesn’t give a fuck about people, or technology, or even the money he sunk on it. So it looks like he’s shaving his eyebrows to spite his face. It doesn’t hurt, so he doesn’t care.

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        4D chess isn’t real. Sometimes, rich and powerful people do dumb things. Sometimes they’re not very smart and have a visible personality disorder. Searching for an underlying clever motive is an exercise in your intelligence - not theirs.

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          I don’t think “they made me buy it so I’m breaking it” is really a 4D move. It’s more like a 4th grade move.

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    I constantly feel the need to argue with this dumb fuck and his 99% wrong opinions. I usually have to take a step back, remember it’s not worth it, and then move on. It would be a great help if I had a Firefox add-on that precedes all of musk’s tweets with "retard weighing in: ", just as a reminder that he’s also allowed a point of view, despite his mental issues.

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      Pretty sure you‘re only using the r-bomb and „mental issues“ in a joking way but its kind of not funny.

      Musk is a spoiled, unempathetic, overhyped idiot who claims to be autistic… perfect example that autistic people can be cretins as well.

      But a lot of autistic people are getting called the r-word and its not ok. Mental (health) issues are not a stigma. They are okay and normal. Being an asshole isnt normal or okay though.