As much as I agree with the sentiment, I am generally opposed to corporal punishment. Do they deserve a good beating? Sure. Should the state have the power to hurt people (other than in situations of immediate danger to others)? No. Absolutely not.

you are a psychopath

yeah matrix is closer to discord - then again most gamers (discord is mostly gamers, isn’t it?) are totally lost anyways because they still use microslop’s fascist OS

Worse, arguably. In medieval times they wouldn’t (be able to) save them from the brink of death only to execute them when they have recovered.

No one talks about releasing her. Also, read about her backstory and tell me you are sure you wouldn’t snap after being exposed to that kind of abuse.

Edit: okay, some people in this thread lower down are actually saying let her go. My bad. I am not advocating for that anyways.

Speaking personally, in a civilized society, we’d be as horrified at what’s been done to her as we are at what she actually did.

I am even more horrified about what’s been (and being) done to her, because it is coming from an allegedly “sane” group of people, whereas she was clearly a victim of insane abuse herself, not only that but also with actual organ damage from what I read about her case - I think substance abuse of her mother during pregnancy, and being a toddler in a room full of dog poo?

Occasionally, in this sadistic, cruel world, people snap. Sometimes even without having been victims of abuse themselves. Some are born psychopaths (but even then: is there a meaningful interpretation of “evil” in the sense that these people chose to be violent? Or does the problem start when their mind is in a place where effecting violence on others is even an option?).

But for a society to enact corporal punishment, it has to be truly barbaric and utterly depraved. Not to mention the torture leading up to that, with solitary confinement and decades of a literal blade hanging over your head.

Protect society from violent criminals, by all means, lock them up if that’s needed. But don’t expose them to cruelty. That is never going to make anyone a better person, it only turns those committing the cruelty into psychopaths. Also, regular inmates with lifelong sentences are cheaper to society than those on death row.

None of the cruelty brings her victim back to life. But the cruelty committed against the murderer may cause the next cruel and violent murderer from among the children of the tormentors of death row inmates, some of whom will suffer abuse by their psychopathic parent.

no replacement, but discord is so awful due to centralised, unencrypted data hoarding, that I don’t miss it

I’d also rather have a completely independent messaging protcol, preferably simple - and I am using XMPP for that reason - for almost all developments it’ll have to be a tradeoff, sadly :/

To be far, I find Matthew quite approachable from the official Matrix channels, so far he’s given me no reason to be suspicious - and Israel in 2017 was not nearly as bad as today’s Israel. Although yes, secure communications technologies from there shouldn’t be trusted even from 20 years ago. However, I’d say the matrix protocol is more complex than “but it’s from Israel”.

I did some basic reading on the Amdocs links, and it appears Matthew and Amandine did not directly go there, but their previously employers were acquired by Amdocs, and their teams integrated with the new company. Considering they left that arrangement in 2017, I am inclined to kinda still trust them that matrix is designed to be private. Do you have any links on the “metadata pissing” thingie? As far as I am informed to date, matrix did not send communication metadata for any given room to federated servers outside those servers who have users in the room?

yeah, the other person trying to refute my points is wilfully ignorantly defending bad features / UI and protocol decisions. They completely failed to notice that I personally am okay with the app, but was quoting reasons why it is not good for non tech-savvy or at least free and open source motivated users.

US? Do you mean Magastan? The banana republic between Mexico and Canada?

my brother in Christ, Discord and Teams both need like 2x the RAM so don’t talk to me about that.

I don’t compare a hot-dog to a pile of dog poo and say “it’s good food”.

Idk left side has contacts and groups, right side chat. What exactly is not user-friendly there?

• slow to load up
• long sync times
• high battery drain for mobile users
• room concept, as opposed to contact chats
• electron app sucks donkeyballs - wastes lots of screen space where no chat is displayed
• options way too hard to find at times (like how to add existing rooms to a space)
• no online/offline status of contacts
• trust model with device verification is unintuitive for non-techie users (admitted this one has improved with the emojis years ago and with cross-device certification)

I could probably find a bunch of more reasons if I thought longer about it. These are all issues that don’t keep me from using the app, but they are severe enough that I can’t convince non-techie friends to use element as a messenger. For matrix, there are superior messengers for sure, albeit those are then limited in functionality.

Hah, you clearly did not study at uni. Nothing beats lazy student food pasta + ketchup.

Wasn’t thinking that, I just think Europeons is the far superior pun. Speaking as a Europeon, of course.

I like element but it’s not nearly as lightweight and user-friendly as I would like it to be.

*europeons was so close and yet you missed the mark.

Many things aren’t funny. Making jokes about them can nevertheless be funny. Heck, humans joke about death all the time.

so you know how to eat olives out of that spoon :) in general, you want to use suction for tiny round foods from a spoon, because they’ll roll right off ^^

Tip the spoon? Have you never applied suction to ingest food?