I didn’t used to understand foreign involvement in wars, like the whole America-Vietnam shenanigans. But I can see why after watching this Israeli Palestine Conflict since birth.
But now it’s like watching two children fighting over who’s sandcastles can be built in the sandbox. And what do we do if children can’t learn to share? You take away everything and no one is happy.
So is that what this is going to come to? Do adults need to intervene to quell the infants?
About 70 years ago European leaders decided the best thing to do with the Jewish people was give them their own country…
So they picked the holy land of three main religions, kicked out everyone that had been living there for centuries and made it a religious ethnostate.
Surprisingly the people who lived there weren’t happy to be victims of an ethnic cleansing.
Picking virtually any other place on the globe and it probably would have worked itself out by now.
Cynics think that was intentionally. It’s the perfect lightning rod for attacks against “the west” and the hostility leads to plenty of proxy wars while avoiding actual war in Europe again after WW2
It started even earlier, after the ottoman empire fell/dissolved, British and French diplomats basically drew lines on a map Scramble for Africa style and created new countries out of nothing.
That created tons of tension already.
Yeah, they broke up Africe with no regard to how many distinct cultures there was.
They looked at that giant ancient landmass and legitimately went “they’re all Black, it doesn’t matter”.
This is a really patronising take.
Imagine if your country was ‘donated’ to a whole other group of people, they took over, murdered people, took your home, tortured your grandparents, you’re going to be mad. It’s not ‘childish’, it’s reality.
The whole Levant area has seen so many blood-soaked conquests that any claim of ‘proper’ or ‘original’ owners is wilfully and maliciously ignorant. This is also the case for pretty much every bit of solid ground. Your desire to return things to “how they were” is just you picking your fave point on a timeline of history.
Not what I said in the slightest. Current residents were and still are being displaced.
Take my own house as an example, who lived here originally? Probably some celts. Who lived here before me? Fuck knows, but they left and it tranferred to me.
If someone decided to donate my house to someone else would I be mad? Fuck yes.
You are speaking from an incredible place of privilege. You’re nation had one of the most successful expansionist genocides in history. The reason there is still conflict in that region is because Israel’s expansionist genocide is WIP.
Tl;dw - European empires fucked everything up and we’re still living with the aftermath. Plus oil.
Who are these magical “adults”?
Obviously the wise and good colonizers, that know what’s best for everyone everywhere
I don’t think the Middle East can chill out until Israel no longer exists.
**no longer is recognized
(it never existed)
I don’t think history is a factor in the way we think back to WW1 or WW2. Yes, it plays a role. But in my uninformed opinion it’s more people just hate each other. They’ve lost relatives because of the other side. They can’t have this happen to more people they like. Hospitals and power plants explode, people live in poverty. People die. Rockets get shot every day. Revenge takes place. I’d be pissed, too. People on both sides are living under constant attack. Religion and history gets on top and makes it yet more difficult. Politics is more focused on retaliation than compromise or working towards a solution. Agreements are short-lived and people show over and over they can’t be trusted. It’s a bad situation in every way.
Additionally there are some people who just like murdering civilians. And they’ll do if they get the opportunity.
it’s like watching two children fighting over who’s sandcastles can be built in the sandbox
Welcome to war.
And what do we do if children can’t learn to share? You take away everything and no one is happy.
So is that what this is going to come to? Do adults need to intervene to quell the infants?
That would be nice… only there are no adults.
PS: any adults 👽 out there… whenever you’re ready, we welcome you 🛸
Yep. OP is wanting other children to take things away from the children. I wonder how that’d turn out. Definitely not with just more children fighting over the sandbox, right?
I was thinking of a nuke on the USA
Because conservative religious people are insane, and that region involves three different and conflicting religions.
If suddenly you snapped your fingers and the entire region/world became irreligious, peace would exist there within a generation or so.
That’s not going to happen, so it’s going to continue to be a clusterfuck for as long as any large groups of people believe a magical being in the sky has destined the state of the region to be a given thing without compromise.
Religion
It’s a religious conflict.
They have no chill.
Currently the Jewish god is apparently stronger, but the Muslims will think theirs probably had a legitimate reason for letting Gaza get blasted to pieces. Plus their holy warriors successfully gutted several dozen slutty party animals, so they might see that as a worthwhile trade, idk. Either way it’s a whole lot of nonsense and murder. Their tangled web of inconsistent dreamlogic is not to be understood, it is to be dismissed.
Hell no. People here keep posting simplistic solutions but this area has a long bloody complex history. Many previous attempts have demonstrated there is no such solution. Trying to settle the area just means finding a new way to fucj it up more. Just no.
You could just turn it all into glass. Realistically as long as it’s some holy place there will never be peace unless we actually kill everyone
The middle east has been fighting for thousands of years. Religion is a helluva thing.
Middle eastern people have been fighting each other for thousands of years.
They will continue to fight each other for thousands of years.
Thanks religion, which ironically Islam has its roots in Judaism, same as Christianity
