Definitely one of the greats. Her characters have a life that is missing in quite a few of the other greats. Her world building and story telling are fantastic, especially considering she didn’t do the kind of historic world building Tolkien engaged in before even telling his stories. J. K. Rowling definitely belongs on the list of great authors in general, not just great female authors.
Is this bait or are you fr rn??? Quit glazing lmao, her works are mid at best and there’s so many better authors (mentioned in this thread so you don’t even have legitimate claim to ignorance) to whom you’re doing a massive disservice by calling JKR “one of the greats.”
Bro really thinks twitter posts about how wizards didn’t know about plumbing centuries after the technology existed and would instead shit on the floor is somehow “fantastic” worldbuilding lmfao 💀
Average potterhead level of reading comprehension.
I was responding specifically to a claim that JKR is “one of the greats” partly on the basis of her worldbuilding by pointing to a clear example of abysmal worldbuilding she’s done…? If the worldbuilding were really that brilliant, you’d expect some of the newer works set in the wizarding world to receive better than a lukewarm reception. Even before she outed herself as a fascist piece of shit nobody was tripping over themselves to catch Fantastic Beasts, and the general consensus was that her tweets about potter lore were pretty embarrassing.
And yeah, I’ll stand by my claim that her works are mediocre on their own merits (or rather, the lack thereof) and that there’s no shortage of better written material by others in the genre for which she’s famous. Some of these other authors are mentioned in this very thread.
We’re discussing her qualities as an author here, this isn’t about my hatred for her as a person, you’re the one who brought that up. You are letting your nostalgia for an IP’s long-past glory days obscure the objectivity behind the comments you are relying to.
It’s just obvious from your way of speaking that this is a rewriting of history, yes you have mentioned some poor world building she has done outside of her literature, that is almost entirely irrelevant to the books she has written.
Calling her works ‘mediocre’ is once again, objectively incorrect and in my opinion (this is an assumption) is fuelled by your own personal feelings towards her.
The wizards had indoor plumbing starting in the 1700s. Most of the world didn’t have indoor plumbing until the 1800s. It would be hard to read the books and not know Hogwarts had plumbing. Your bad example notwithstanding, yes the wizards are ignorant of a few things that make no sense even though they use magic for every mundane thing, and it makes less sense since children would have to completely rely on their parents for any magical utility until they were pretty much grown. It doesn’t take away from the story, but if she did the worldbuilding like Tolkien, she probably would have noticed this and made small adjustments.
Some people are about to lose their marbles but just going by the numbers: J. K. Rowling.
She authored the 4th best selling single book of all time and the best selling book series of all time, by quite the margin.
I’d say that would be considered “most successful”
“Best” is very subjective
Sure, but when you asking about a specific profession, that seems the most obvious way to interpret that question.
Unless OP just wants to find a nice female author to hang out with (in that case we should probably exclude all the dead ones).
Financial success is a poor measure for the worth of artists of any stripe. If anything, it has an inverse relationship.
Pretty sure a lot of artists that are just scratching by would disagree, but fair enough.
Could also just be to start a discussion or find new authors to check out
Counterpoint: If success is what we base this on, then E. L. James (50 shades of grey) is a very good author.
Sure, if you’re talking about insurance salespeople or stockbrokers. But in the creative field, things are a little deeper.
Best is always subjective when it comes to art, but I think she is squarely in the safe zone for wearing the label.
Pfft. Rowling’s sold an estimated 600-650 million books (22 titles). Agatha Christie sold an estimated 2-4 billion books (86 titles).
now do a count per years of release and calculate how many jk rowling would sell if her books were out for the same amount of time?
or is the bible the greatest piece of fiction ever?
Interesting. I guess there is a lot of metrics and rules to apply to make a count. Still, she’s like 2nd?
4th, apparently after Christie, Barbara Cartland, and Danielle Steel. What entertains me is in 5th is Enid Blyton with 800 books!
7th of male and female authors.
Definitely one of the greats. Her characters have a life that is missing in quite a few of the other greats. Her world building and story telling are fantastic, especially considering she didn’t do the kind of historic world building Tolkien engaged in before even telling his stories. J. K. Rowling definitely belongs on the list of great authors in general, not just great female authors.
Is this bait or are you fr rn??? Quit glazing lmao, her works are mid at best and there’s so many better authors (mentioned in this thread so you don’t even have legitimate claim to ignorance) to whom you’re doing a massive disservice by calling JKR “one of the greats.”
Bro really thinks twitter posts about how wizards didn’t know about plumbing centuries after the technology existed and would instead shit on the floor is somehow “fantastic” worldbuilding lmfao 💀
does shitting on the floor exist as a major plot point in the series? No?
you are letting your hate for a person obscure the objectivity behind the comments you are replying to.
Average potterhead level of reading comprehension.
I was responding specifically to a claim that JKR is “one of the greats” partly on the basis of her worldbuilding by pointing to a clear example of abysmal worldbuilding she’s done…? If the worldbuilding were really that brilliant, you’d expect some of the newer works set in the wizarding world to receive better than a lukewarm reception. Even before she outed herself as a fascist piece of shit nobody was tripping over themselves to catch Fantastic Beasts, and the general consensus was that her tweets about potter lore were pretty embarrassing.
And yeah, I’ll stand by my claim that her works are mediocre on their own merits (or rather, the lack thereof) and that there’s no shortage of better written material by others in the genre for which she’s famous. Some of these other authors are mentioned in this very thread.
We’re discussing her qualities as an author here, this isn’t about my hatred for her as a person, you’re the one who brought that up. You are letting your nostalgia for an IP’s long-past glory days obscure the objectivity behind the comments you are relying to.
It’s just obvious from your way of speaking that this is a rewriting of history, yes you have mentioned some poor world building she has done outside of her literature, that is almost entirely irrelevant to the books she has written.
Calling her works ‘mediocre’ is once again, objectively incorrect and in my opinion (this is an assumption) is fuelled by your own personal feelings towards her.
The wizards had indoor plumbing starting in the 1700s. Most of the world didn’t have indoor plumbing until the 1800s. It would be hard to read the books and not know Hogwarts had plumbing. Your bad example notwithstanding, yes the wizards are ignorant of a few things that make no sense even though they use magic for every mundane thing, and it makes less sense since children would have to completely rely on their parents for any magical utility until they were pretty much grown. It doesn’t take away from the story, but if she did the worldbuilding like Tolkien, she probably would have noticed this and made small adjustments.