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      8 months ago

      Because your using these stats to dismiss people saying men face domestic abuse too? I get you’re doing it because those people arent arguing in good faith, but its still ultimately you insinuating "men dont face DA as much of women, so they dont matter.

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            8 months ago

            your using these stats to dismiss people saying men face domestic abuse too

            Nobody brought it up. I wasn’t dismissing anything like that.

            "men dont face DA as much of women, so they dont matter.

            I didn’t say that, nor did I insinuate it. You haven’t made your case, you’ve just said I said something I clearly didn’t say. I don’t know what else to um… say.

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              So if nobody brought this up, why did you write that edit and bring up these statistics?

              I didn’t say that, nor did I insinuate it.

              You did though.

              this is just rates of violence, of any kind. It says nothing at all about the consequences of that violence. I’ll bet if you looked into that it’s worse for women too. If you’re wondering why so many categories don’t have rates of violence against men, it’s because they have a “high relative standard error”, which is statistics speak for “the rate is so low we can’t properly measure it”.

              And you also pull the claim of “women get harsher sentences when they commit DA” out of your arse too.

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                So you admit that you read “the consequences of that violence” and your mind immediately went to the legal consequences for the perpetrator, instead of thinking about the physical harm done to the victim.

                That says basically everything about the butthurt responses in this thread.

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                  So you admit to pulling the claim that men are less affected by abuse then women completely out of your arse based on nothing but your own sexist ideas?

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                    Women are far more likely to be killed by men than vice versa, which is the obvious point I was making. I didn’t want to go find the information because frankly it’s pretty obvious that a man beating up a woman will usually do a lot more damage than a woman beating up a man. That’s why I framed it as a “guess”, so you’re not catching me out on anything here. If you care about the stats you can find them in this thread somewhere.

                    Should I go ahead and assume that you dodged my question about the thing you clearly admitted because you don’t want to admit it again, because it’s actually really revealing about the kind of person you are, and you don’t want that revealed because deep down you know exactly what kind of person you are?