For masculine identifying folks, what were the things you did (or had happen to you) that you feel helped you transition into adulthood and find fulfilling community?

Statistics suggest that a large number of men feel isolated, unvalued by society, and dysfunctional, but it’s not 100%.

  • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de
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    15 days ago

    Relevant: Arnold Schwarzenegger’s famous speech, Don’t Ever Call Me a Self-Made Man https://youtu.be/DOldEbWxgdQ (you can probably easily find it not on YouTube with a web search). It’s not 100% what you asked but it’s along the same lines.

    Edit: full speech https://youtu.be/RJsvR_gSEjg

    I take issue with “fully functioning”. I believe no person on earth is fully functioning, at least not in the developed world. Everyone has to rely on others for some tasks, including basic tasks.

    For me it’s mostly cooking, which is a huge gap in my function.

    Just off the top of my head:

    • Cooking
    • Cleaning
    • Home maintenance
    • Exercise
    • Paperwork/bureaucracy
    • Socializing (friends, family)
    • Pets (optional)
    • Children (optional)
    • Work/Study
    • Digital safety (e.g. using a password manager, keeping devices up to date, avoiding malware)
    • Culture (books, movies, games etc.)
    • News (at least on subjects you care about) from trustworthy sources
    • Hobbies

    I consider all of these necessary to be “fully functioning”. I really don’t see how it’s possible for one person to have the time and the knowledge for all of these diverse tasks.

    We’re humans, and we live in a society. We specialize, and if we’re lucky, we have people close to us who can fill in the gaps where we fall short.

    I can’t cook, and I rely on my family for proper food, otherwise I usually go for frozen stuff. But in return I make sure my family doesn’t make any digital safety blunders, and I fix things around the house that my mother just wouldn’t know where to start.

    Loads of people hire a cleaner to regularly clean their home. Are they not able to clean for themselves? Are they not fully functioning? No, of course they could if you take cleaning in isolation, but they can’t do everything, and more importantly, they can’t do it to the same level of quality. Replace cleaning with whatever.

    The fully functioning adult is a myth. Everyone offloads.

    Didn’t read many other comments, don’t know if this was already said.