Stamets@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 1 day agoKing forgot his crownlemmy.worldimagemessage-square71fedilinkarrow-up1756
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minus-squareRestrictedAccount@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up7·1 day agoThere is no mention of any consideration (a legal term meaning he didn’t promise them anything in return) provided by the “boyfriend”. This would not be fraud under English common law.
minus-squareonslaught545@lemmy.ziplinkfedilinkarrow-up3·1 day agoYou don’t have to promise anything in return for it to be fraud. If I start a Go Fund Me because I have cancer when I really don’t have cancer, the people donating aren’t promised anything in return. It’s still fraud.
minus-squareRestrictedAccount@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1·3 hours agoThe cancer example is plausible, but I am not sure you would always win. In that case you are asking for help for a specific reason. They “get to feel good about helping solve your problem”. Your deception deprives them of their having done something good with their money - which is the tort. In OP’s instance, he was saying that he had a birthday and you are giving him a gift. Not the same - you can make the same argument, but it is even thinner gruel.
There is no mention of any consideration (a legal term meaning he didn’t promise them anything in return) provided by the “boyfriend”.
This would not be fraud under English common law.
You don’t have to promise anything in return for it to be fraud. If I start a Go Fund Me because I have cancer when I really don’t have cancer, the people donating aren’t promised anything in return. It’s still fraud.
The cancer example is plausible, but I am not sure you would always win.
In that case you are asking for help for a specific reason. They “get to feel good about helping solve your problem”.
Your deception deprives them of their having done something good with their money - which is the tort.
In OP’s instance, he was saying that he had a birthday and you are giving him a gift.
Not the same - you can make the same argument, but it is even thinner gruel.