Lemmy might not be the future. The mods are just as oversensitive and overzealous as the Reddit mods. I was banned from the Vegan forum for telling them that they are never going to convince meat eaters to stop eating meat based on animal rights issues, because nobody cared about animal rights like they do. Sorry, but its true. I have also had an entire comment chain deleted from an Unpopular Opinion thread–I don’t even care to go back and check what it was all about, but I can guarantee it was because I wasn’t conforming to popular opinion.
And this is happening to a person that is generally in tune with everything people are saying here–I can’t imagine the valuable insights that we may be losing to moderator action that I never even get to see.
I’m uninterested in dividing the group and speaking to an echo chamber. The only place it matters are the places people don’t automatically agree with you, and me with them.
You are in an echo-chamber. Lemmy.world intentionally defederates from instances with significant ideological differences, you may wish to pick something like Lemm.ee instead.
Lemmy.world in particular attracts people interested in a generalist instance, itself an attraction of a specific type.
The point of federation is curation of experience. You can pick a niche instance with a broad federation list so that you can have like-minded discussions in local and a broad exposure when sorting by all.
For any community (or even post) you are in, there is a “Modlog” green button on the side bar. If I see a removed comment I click on it to see what was removed and typically 99% of it is legitimate. The only downside (which I’ve been meaning to make a post mentioning it), is if someone is banned it auto-deletes all of their comments but doesn’t show each individual one. If you’re looking for a perfect system of which people can’t abuse mod powers … well good luck and definitely let me know if you ever find it lol.
You went to a niche forum and told them what they believe in is stupid?
Our deleted comments are stored on modlog. You honestly don’t have many deleted comments. We all get angry, it happens. Some discussions are just better to leave alone than deal with.
Many of your deleted comments are over the top arguments. Yes I get that “over the top is subjective” but we have discussions about genocide that are calmer than your discussions about terrible mechanics who are so terrible… that you imagine them going to vote for abortion bans and transgender mistreatment. Another comment you made fun of the person’s body (you also assumed their gender I guess) for not agreeing with you on how loud cars on.
We all get laughed at here. Happens to all of us. I got called the “embodiment” of a particular meme. Someone is going always going to disagree with me about something, they can just block me if it becomes an issue.
Lemmy is not perfect but it’s so much better than the alternatives. The reason why Lemmy is awesome is because its developers (self identifying tankies) would NEVER have a platform to discuss what they want. They had to build one that was impervious to pushing them into a corner on their own server/instance.
(I’m not referring to you here.) Oh the irony going out of your way to find tankie content (none of it shows up on Lemmy.world) and antagonizing them on the software they created in a way where their view isn’t rammed down your throat in the first place.
I am not sure I even knew there was a mod log. Tried to find it in my app–didn’t see it, but maybe I just missed it. I wanted to see which comment I made that was making fun of someone’s body, because that -doesn’t- sound like something I’d do unless they’d made an equally annoying remarks first. But it’s good to hear the mod log exists at all.
The usual work flow is that I’ll comment on something people don’t agree with, and multiple (2-5) people will jump on my comment with pointless insults and dumb counter-arguments, and there’s no way I am going to handle more than one person at a time with kids gloves. I’m not even projecting controversial opinions imo (unless they hate cars lawl). I’m usually already on the same side as everyone else, and they just disagree with my interpretation when the whole point of the conversation was to suggest that there might be alternative strategies, instead of doing the same thing they have been doing that hasn’t been successful since the dawn of time (or whatever)
Ridiculous.
I’m mostly annoyed by the vegan thing I mentioned originally–I’m not vegan, but I do like animals and it’s annoying to see them use the dumbest strategies in the world. They almost make me want to eat more animals just to spite them for being so out of touch.
Yeah, sometimes I feel there are people who are kind of coming together here when they find something they disagree with. There’s nothing we can do about that. edit: Likewise, people who agree with what I said are also free to reply to the person I disagreed with as well. It works both ways.
You can always find a link to the modlog at the bottom of every page in the desktop web version of any Lemmy instance. You can search for any user on a federated instance. No need typing “@” symbol.
Lemmy might not be the future. The mods are just as oversensitive and overzealous as the Reddit mods. I was banned from the Vegan forum for telling them that they are never going to convince meat eaters to stop eating meat based on animal rights issues, because nobody cared about animal rights like they do. Sorry, but its true. I have also had an entire comment chain deleted from an Unpopular Opinion thread–I don’t even care to go back and check what it was all about, but I can guarantee it was because I wasn’t conforming to popular opinion.
And this is happening to a person that is generally in tune with everything people are saying here–I can’t imagine the valuable insights that we may be losing to moderator action that I never even get to see.
Then start your own instance, or join one that aligns with your values instead of a generalist instance.
The issue with Reddit is systemic and foundational, but Lemmy gives users the tools they need to fix their problems.
I’m uninterested in dividing the group and speaking to an echo chamber. The only place it matters are the places people don’t automatically agree with you, and me with them.
You are in an echo-chamber. Lemmy.world intentionally defederates from instances with significant ideological differences, you may wish to pick something like Lemm.ee instead.
Lemmy.world in particular attracts people interested in a generalist instance, itself an attraction of a specific type.
The point of federation is curation of experience. You can pick a niche instance with a broad federation list so that you can have like-minded discussions in local and a broad exposure when sorting by all.
I switched from world to ee and enjoy interacting with ml grad and hexbear users ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Lemm.ee fulfills the “show me everything except CSAM” role much better than Lemmy.world, which is just Reddit 2, IMO.
Maybe I’ll do this. If even just to argue with people who are more extremist who will handle my opinions even poorer. Lol.
Go for it. Lemm.ee’s local feed is… interesting… but the All feed contains far more than Lemmy.world does.
Lemmy.ml is federated with more instances than Lemmy.world as well, but is also focused on FOSS and Privacy, so the local feed is more curated.
For any community (or even post) you are in, there is a “Modlog” green button on the side bar. If I see a removed comment I click on it to see what was removed and typically 99% of it is legitimate. The only downside (which I’ve been meaning to make a post mentioning it), is if someone is banned it auto-deletes all of their comments but doesn’t show each individual one. If you’re looking for a perfect system of which people can’t abuse mod powers … well good luck and definitely let me know if you ever find it lol.
You went to a niche forum and told them what they believe in is stupid?
Our deleted comments are stored on modlog. You honestly don’t have many deleted comments. We all get angry, it happens. Some discussions are just better to leave alone than deal with.
Many of your deleted comments are over the top arguments. Yes I get that “over the top is subjective” but we have discussions about genocide that are calmer than your discussions about terrible mechanics who are so terrible… that you imagine them going to vote for abortion bans and transgender mistreatment. Another comment you made fun of the person’s body (you also assumed their gender I guess) for not agreeing with you on how loud cars on.
We all get laughed at here. Happens to all of us. I got called the “embodiment” of a particular meme. Someone is going always going to disagree with me about something, they can just block me if it becomes an issue.
Lemmy is not perfect but it’s so much better than the alternatives. The reason why Lemmy is awesome is because its developers (self identifying tankies) would NEVER have a platform to discuss what they want. They had to build one that was impervious to pushing them into a corner on their own server/instance.
(I’m not referring to you here.) Oh the irony going out of your way to find tankie content (none of it shows up on Lemmy.world) and antagonizing them on the software they created in a way where their view isn’t rammed down your throat in the first place.
I am not sure I even knew there was a mod log. Tried to find it in my app–didn’t see it, but maybe I just missed it. I wanted to see which comment I made that was making fun of someone’s body, because that -doesn’t- sound like something I’d do unless they’d made an equally annoying remarks first. But it’s good to hear the mod log exists at all.
The usual work flow is that I’ll comment on something people don’t agree with, and multiple (2-5) people will jump on my comment with pointless insults and dumb counter-arguments, and there’s no way I am going to handle more than one person at a time with kids gloves. I’m not even projecting controversial opinions imo (unless they hate cars lawl). I’m usually already on the same side as everyone else, and they just disagree with my interpretation when the whole point of the conversation was to suggest that there might be alternative strategies, instead of doing the same thing they have been doing that hasn’t been successful since the dawn of time (or whatever)
Ridiculous.
I’m mostly annoyed by the vegan thing I mentioned originally–I’m not vegan, but I do like animals and it’s annoying to see them use the dumbest strategies in the world. They almost make me want to eat more animals just to spite them for being so out of touch.
Yeah, sometimes I feel there are people who are kind of coming together here when they find something they disagree with. There’s nothing we can do about that. edit: Likewise, people who agree with what I said are also free to reply to the person I disagreed with as well. It works both ways.
https://lemmy.world/modlog
You can always find a link to the modlog at the bottom of every page in the desktop web version of any Lemmy instance. You can search for any user on a federated instance. No need typing “@” symbol.