I realise this is a tricky topic and I hope it’s ok to ask this question. I genuinely want to hear how AI has changed people lives for the better. If you really hate AI I get it, but this isn’t a question for you then. Thank you and it’s all love.

(Edit: Thank you to all the positive commenters and for sticking with me through the inevitable negativity. Lots of really interesting comments in here 😁 We mustn’t let ourselves be intimidated by those who would try to forbid us from having these conversations. Thanks again)

  • HelloThere@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    5·
    2 days ago

    The rhetorical mistake you made was an appeal to authority - “in computer science” - in your reply. This only makes sense if you presumed I don’t know the details behind my statement, ie I have not studied it.

    Any workable definition of AI must be more complex than a single, complete, procedure like path finding. If it isn’t, then any algorithm that is NP complete counts as AI.

    For example, a script that solves sudoku is not AI.

    • Fallibilist@feddit.uk
      13·
      2 days ago

      AI is a technical term with roots in computer science. That’s not an appeal to authority - it’s a factual statement.

      When a layperson hears “AI” they often think of AGI - something like HAL 9000. Then they look at ChatGPT, conclude the LLM isn’t (generally) intelligent, and decide it therefore isn’t AI. My point is that the term has a specific meaning and it’s not what most people think. I assumed you were one of those people. It doesn’t imply general intelligence. A very simple system can still be artificially intelligent in the classical definition of the term. A sudoku solver, a chess engine, and a navigator would all count.

      Nowadays the meaning has shifted a little and usually refers to a model that has learned from a bunch of data. By that definition none of the earlier examples qualify anymore except for LLMs.

      • HelloThere@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        4·
        2 days ago

        AI is a technical term with roots in computer science. That’s not an appeal to authority - it’s a factual statement.

        Then use a definition which would hold water academically.

        Switching between proper definitions and layman’s usage is basically the entire point of my original comment.

        But anyway, have a lovely evening.

      • Sergio@piefed.socialEnglish
        1·
        2 days ago

        You’re kinda right. It reminds me of:

        The AI effect is a phenomenon in which advances in artificial intelligence lead to a redefinition of what is considered intelligence, such that capabilities achieved by AI systems are no longer regarded as examples of “real” intelligence.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect