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  • Nazi bar

    I never liked this stupid idea. If anti-Nazis start to hang out at a bar, does it become an anti-Nazi bar? What about both Nazis & anti-Nazis: who wins? It seems you privilege the presence of Nazis in deciding the kind of bar it is with no chance of anyone else showing up to decide the kind of bar they make it with their mere presence. You privilege Nazis.

    I don’t see anyone applying this logic to the wider web where we have Nazi sites: no one calls the web a Nazi bar. Or the world for that matter. Is your language a Nazi bar since some Nazis speak it? Yet some people can regularly use x.com without ever running into Nazis just like the web or the world. Nazi bar is classic bad company fallacy.

    The most pernicious effect of this fallacy is it just surrenders entire platforms to Nazis & pretends retreating to ideological bubbles is morally virtuous. By immaturely prioritizing comforting & unchallenging environments of social validation & self-righteousness maintained by silencing opposition over environments of unfettered public discourse that challenge us to develop intellectual depth & skill to actually debate serious disagreements, we erode critical thought, limit self-reflection & growth, and allow radicalization to propagate unchecked by exposure to deradicalizing influences & more intelligent perspectives. We promote backslides into repressive extremism by being cowardly ninnies unwilling to counter words with reason & public opinion. Have some conviction to stand up for your morality where it matters.





  • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.comtoComic Strips@lemmy.worldDebate
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    They’re garbage at doing this. There is no agreed upon standard of doing it. and because they are so utterly shit at it, all that is left is the appeal to authority, because “our methodology works”.

    Not really: most research of any credibility openly shares its data either upfront or on request. The argument isn’t “I did this right, trust me, bro”, it’s “here’s my methods & data supporting my analysis & conclusions: check for yourself or even redo it all”. Reproducibility (verification of findings) & replicability (same findings with new data) is the standard: once that’s done (researchers can communicate to clear up methods or miscommunication), the issues to do that had been cleared up & don’t really matter anymore.

    A meta-analysis takes in a body of independent studies that replicate findings & analyzes them together to reproduce results, so it addresses both standards.



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    The real problem is that “actual scientific journal” 's quality control is shit too.

    Good thing they referred to a meta-analysis, which is near the top of the hierarchy of evidence. Most of the scientific research articles nowadays are hyperlinked. They aren’t appeals to authority: the entire purpose of the article is to present their work, data, & findings (ie, evidence).