Sorry, Bob. Doc said you’re gonna die.

Well, that’s a new development. That used to be the go-to method they pushed. Thanks for pointing that out.

As for Docker Desktop being the top option, it would only be used for a “development environment” because why would you install that on a headless docker host for production? And after the horror stories I’ve heard of Windows and Mac versions of Docker Desktop, there isn’t a chance in hell I’d use it anyway.

So yes, going forward it looks like adding the repos and apt-get install are the way to go. Except, the convenience script was so… convenient.

That Community-scripts seems to come off as some sort of Proxmox association, but I can’t see anything official. Maybe Tteck is endorsing it, but it’s not clear either.

Keep in mind that running scripts, especially curl-bash pipes, has a huge security risk as anything can be substituted in the scripts or the dependencies they call. No clue who MickLesk is and not saying they’re good, bad or indifferent. But there is no reputation there and caution should be exercised.

I don’t need what Ubuntu offers to run server applications, and Debian is rock solid and predictable. Might as well go to the source since it’s Debian all the way down anyway, just with added cruft.

Well, I wasn’t using snaps and it still decided to install Docker snap on me. 2 days of troubleshooting before I figured out that the snap existed and was having a war with my apt install of docker. Never again.

When I tried it last (a couple years ago), the docker snap was an untroubleshootable mess. I don’t like the idea of running Docker that way, in whatever version of a container that Canonical has come up with for snaps. It’s just looking for problems. Run an application with Snap if you want, but a whole container system? No thanks.

Debian with the docker convenience script. Stay away from Ubuntu server, for the love of dog.

Make a folder such as /stacks and put everything there by building docker compose stacks. I bind mount everything local to a subfolder with the docker-compose.yml for that application so when I restore it, it’s all in one spot, not spread all over the hell like docker likes to do if you don’t use bind mounts.

Add lazydocker for getting easy log and stats access for each stack.

Avoid bare docker run commands. It makes an unmanageable mess when you get more that a couple containers running.

Consider using the nextcloud AIO master container. It runs docker containers inside a master container compose file, and it is by far the easiest way to manage and run nextcloud.

I can appreciate this. You might want to look at Lazydocker as a SSH TUI management tool.

I apologize. The word fuck is one I’m used to using, but I’ll try to avoid using it.

This sounds like “I’m sorry I fucking swore around you, I’ll try to stop that shit.”

You’d probably like ProjectFarm and HyperspacePirate.

Because its lovely to work with compared to ROHS solder, and if you’re just a hobbyist, its not an appreciable risk.

Its negligible and its elemental lead which isn’t very reactive at all.

Having pulled a toilet out to fix something more than once, the bathtub is exactly where you want to put it while you work.

I was a sysadmin with some Linux usage in 1998, does that count?

I upvoted this because I hate it.

Finger will stop the bullet.

Why would they even make a 40 min long ad for Redbull?

My brother in Christ, Oracle isn’t worth free.

They couldn’t even successfully delete my account or stop billing me after they couldn’t fix the simplest problem because they could never associate my support ID with my tenant account. I had to put a block on my credit card at the advice of a oracle support rep to stop getting charged.

Utter dogshit, but I don’t know what I expected, doing any sort of business with Larry Ellison.

Carry it printed on a sign behind your back until he pops up, then whip it out after the first question. Then walk away after he’s read it, while conspicuously taking handwritten notes and looking back over your shoulder.

We’ll beat him like a kettle drum.