• fustigation769curtain@lemmy.world
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    I was just thinking about it.

    I think the motive was the guy was angry at the world and wanted to kill as many people as possible before killing himself.

    A man that feels he has nothing to lose is a dangerous thing.

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      A man that feels he has nothing to lose is a dangerous thing.

      Billionaires with nothing to gain but money for moneys sake are far more dangerous, it’s just they are going to kill your loves ones with crushing debt or an opioid prescription not a bullet.

      Between 1999 and 2015, around 350,000 people died from opioid addiction related deaths in the US.

      350,000

      Guess whether any of the Sacklers went to jail who knowingly pushed opioid prescriptions in situations where it was dangerous or unnecessary based rational from studies conducted to purposefully sell more opioids?

      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352827319300096#:~:text=According to the CDC%2C there,counties from 1999 through 2015.

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          I mean as long as UBI isn’t spearheaded by a bunch of libertarians who think they are bravely forging an unprecedented path forward towards creating a social safety net while ignoring the long history of social safety nets in different societies, and the entire left movement in the US that fought successfully for things like the 8 hour work day.

          I think UBI can be great, but there are wayyyy too many libertarians into UBI to the point that the ruling class has a super clear route to catastrophically cutting social welfare programs across the board while saying “we don’t need these if we have UBI!”, making UBI completely insufficient, and fooling libertarians into taking the bait hook line and sinker because they don’t have political or historical knowledge about how social welfare in societies is actually achieved through organization of worker power to leverage against a hostile ruling class.

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      A man that feels he has nothing to lose is a dangerous thing.

      There is no defense against the berserker.

      – Sir Terry Pratchett

      Anyone with no regard for their own safety and a will to harm others is always dangerous

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      Ever been to the Bunkerville/Mesquite, Nevada, area? The Vegas shooter was probably acquainted with the Bundys, of “federal building” and “FBI shoot out” fame. I’ve a suspicion the government would prefer people didn’t know he was probably a right wing terrorist.

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        You don’t get a collection of guns like that without being right wing. Doesn’t matter who you’re acquainted with. He also had a pretty big victim complex when it came to his all-consuming gambling addiction and was pissed about not being comped with all the perks he thought he deserved for the about of money he spent.

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          Gun ownership isn’t a right wing exclusive trait, unless you’re one of those people who just move anything they don’t like over the “right”…Do you not know who the Bundys are?

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            I know who the Bundy’s are. Freeloading terrorists who should be in prison.

            Yeah, I absolutely did pigeonhole the shooter as a right winger because that’s who is most likely to own the guns he did and fetishize them to the point he needed bump stocks for lols. Just stating that lefties own guns doesn’t offer anything to the conversation.

            One article suggests:

            Paddock appeared fixated on three pillars of right-wing extremism: anti-government conspiracy theories, threats to Second Amendment rights, and overly burdensome taxes.

            a man who loathed restrictions on gun ownership and believed that the Second Amendment was under siege,

            So despite law enforcement going way out of its way to avoid mention of paddock’s leanings, it is highly likely he was a regular right wing/libertarian nutter.

            https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/05/18/las-vegas-shooter-went-antigovernment-rant-massacre-sometimes-sacrifices-have-be-made

            Another site with more info with his right wing and fringe leanings.

            Edit: and for the record, I enjoy the shooting sports, but I have no time for the morons tying guns to their personal identities and using 2A to avoid sanity and reason when it comes to gun control. Fuck the people that make the rest of society pay for their unfettered access to guns. So no, I didn’t “move something I disliked” unless you count right wing nuts who kill and injure hundreds as a dislike.

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          From what I understand, he had also recently taken a serious nosedive in the finance department, and while he was still a high roller, he was not the HIGH ROLLER he had been in years before, and he seemed to regard that as an injury to his pride.

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        I live there. I don’t know if the shooter knew about the Bundy’s story but it’s very unlikely that they ever met. The shooter lived north of the interstate, in one of those fancy estates. I happen to know one of his neighbors. The Bundys lived on the other side of Bunkerville.

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          Sure, and they also know gun nuts and militia types literally all over multiple states. He’s their type of people, and only a few miles away, in a sparsely populated area.

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            That is a valid point. My instincts tell me that they didn’t meet and my instincts have a great track record but I can’t (completely) rule it out.

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      A man that feels he has nothing to lose is a dangerous thing.

      Especially if he has easy access to large quantities of weapons and ammunition.

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      Turns out the dude was likely involved with CSAM, as his brother was arrested for it almost immediately after the shooting.

      From what I’ve seen, his brother was one of the only people still in touch with him during his last days.