Just to be clear, my mom’s not on that level and doesn’t deserve to die, nor is she an evil cunt (I’d say closer to an uncaring [insert-unflattering-comparison-of-your-choice-that-isn’t-toooffensive]), but I won’t be praising her for much either.
Oh, I didn’t assume your mom was like that. There is fffaaaarrrr less vile shit that would qualify for no contact. When you are in the corrections system, you just begin to see more common terrible things as “normal”, and only the really, truly, fucked up shit stands out. So this is the story I remember, because it was so fucked every jaded, dead inside, asshole, working at the jail was talking about it.
I wonder if it’s a prison thing. Like, perhaps lots of offenders, or at least a portion of them, are moms which may have done quite violent things to protect their children. So then it’s become like a prison rule that “you don’t criticise moms”, and prison rules are obeyed no matter what.
Like say there are cases of people actually being tried for CSAM for having naked selfies of themselves on their phone when they were underage. It’s not too common, and that would be the far end. But then like small transgressions of like 15years with 17-18 year old men. That guy gets charged for sexually assaulting a minor and goes to prison for it and you know they’re not gonna listen to reason about it being “an exaggeration”, he’s just treated as bad as any pedo might. Well I may be putting it a bit black and white, but I’m sure you understand what I’m getting at.
Mom’s in general are a rather terrifying force. Usually for good. But I’d hate to be on the bad side of that when it turns bad.
Like this is what the good side looks like, imo. (Say what you will about the franchise, I’ve still emotional connetion to it before the author went completely mask-off cuckoo.)
I genuinely can’t watch that without tearing up a bit. Even just now when I just watched the clip, lol.
There’s also a quote from a Doctor Who Christmas Special, where a mom from the 1940’s goes through a portal to a scifi world in the future where there’s industrial workers, who stop her at gunpoint. She turns the tables on them, despite there being three industrial workers with guns all of them, she gets the drop on them by disarming them by crying. The woman worker demands they drop their guns. Then she pulls out a pistol, “it’s wartime England”, and drops the act. Bill Bailey’s character says to her “There’s nothing you could say to convince me you’d ever use that gun.”
And her reply is just: “Oh really? Well, I’m looking for my children.”
The reasons are individual and vary greatly. A lot of them were actually badly abused by their mothers. Their mother has narcissism, or some other personality disorder, and they were raised in an environment that, though they were abused, they internalized it, and believed their mother when she said it was their fault. So they, very deeply, want nothing more than the approval of their mother/family in general. Even when they consciously know this is the reality of their situation it still doesn’t change their desires, and they develop defensive tendencies towards their abuser. In more recent times the demographics of correctional facilities have been changing. White women, who are from much more wealthy, than normal, backgrounds, are the fastest growing demographic in the US penal system. The vast majority of their convictions are possession, or crimes surrounding drug use. Possession, prostitution, theft, and fraud are the big ones. A good number of these women actually had good parents, and home lives. Their reasons for falling into the desperation that leads to drug use are more external, and systemic, than what was most common in times past.
Point being, there is no one factor that holds the most weight for this type of thinking. I could be here for hours discussing demographics, programs, approaches, outcomes, recidivism rates, etc. as my primary job was data analysis for what was called the offender management system (OMS). I don’t have it in me right now.
Okay yeah, wow, that’s shocking.
Just to be clear, my mom’s not on that level and doesn’t deserve to die, nor is she an evil cunt (I’d say closer to an uncaring [insert-unflattering-comparison-of-your-choice-that-isn’t-toooffensive]), but I won’t be praising her for much either.
Oh, I didn’t assume your mom was like that. There is fffaaaarrrr less vile shit that would qualify for no contact. When you are in the corrections system, you just begin to see more common terrible things as “normal”, and only the really, truly, fucked up shit stands out. So this is the story I remember, because it was so fucked every jaded, dead inside, asshole, working at the jail was talking about it.
I wonder if it’s a prison thing. Like, perhaps lots of offenders, or at least a portion of them, are moms which may have done quite violent things to protect their children. So then it’s become like a prison rule that “you don’t criticise moms”, and prison rules are obeyed no matter what.
Like say there are cases of people actually being tried for CSAM for having naked selfies of themselves on their phone when they were underage. It’s not too common, and that would be the far end. But then like small transgressions of like 15years with 17-18 year old men. That guy gets charged for sexually assaulting a minor and goes to prison for it and you know they’re not gonna listen to reason about it being “an exaggeration”, he’s just treated as bad as any pedo might. Well I may be putting it a bit black and white, but I’m sure you understand what I’m getting at.
Mom’s in general are a rather terrifying force. Usually for good. But I’d hate to be on the bad side of that when it turns bad.
Like this is what the good side looks like, imo. (Say what you will about the franchise, I’ve still emotional connetion to it before the author went completely mask-off cuckoo.)
Not my daughter you BITCH! - HD
I genuinely can’t watch that without tearing up a bit. Even just now when I just watched the clip, lol.
There’s also a quote from a Doctor Who Christmas Special, where a mom from the 1940’s goes through a portal to a scifi world in the future where there’s industrial workers, who stop her at gunpoint. She turns the tables on them, despite there being three industrial workers with guns all of them, she gets the drop on them by disarming them by crying. The woman worker demands they drop their guns. Then she pulls out a pistol, “it’s wartime England”, and drops the act. Bill Bailey’s character says to her “There’s nothing you could say to convince me you’d ever use that gun.” And her reply is just: “Oh really? Well, I’m looking for my children.”
The reasons are individual and vary greatly. A lot of them were actually badly abused by their mothers. Their mother has narcissism, or some other personality disorder, and they were raised in an environment that, though they were abused, they internalized it, and believed their mother when she said it was their fault. So they, very deeply, want nothing more than the approval of their mother/family in general. Even when they consciously know this is the reality of their situation it still doesn’t change their desires, and they develop defensive tendencies towards their abuser. In more recent times the demographics of correctional facilities have been changing. White women, who are from much more wealthy, than normal, backgrounds, are the fastest growing demographic in the US penal system. The vast majority of their convictions are possession, or crimes surrounding drug use. Possession, prostitution, theft, and fraud are the big ones. A good number of these women actually had good parents, and home lives. Their reasons for falling into the desperation that leads to drug use are more external, and systemic, than what was most common in times past.
Point being, there is no one factor that holds the most weight for this type of thinking. I could be here for hours discussing demographics, programs, approaches, outcomes, recidivism rates, etc. as my primary job was data analysis for what was called the offender management system (OMS). I don’t have it in me right now.