Ah yes, the USSR, a state which considered homosexuality to be a mental disorder and a sign of fascism, and then subsequently criminalized it, arrested queer people, and sentenced them to years in labour camps.
People oppose communism because we don’t trust authoritarians to make good decisions, and when they inevitably make bad decisions, the effects are disastrous and widespread due to how centralized the system is.
Like putting Jews and Red Army POWs let out of Nazi camps in gulags. Very positive.
that’s not a real thing.
you wouldn’t be able to find an example of systematic jews transfers to gulags - search if u wanna.
kidding me - many people in ussr leadership were jews
I get, you’re saying the benefits of communism are well worth the sacrifice of a few minorities. That’s an argument you can make, but who decides who the minority is? What if they decide that you’re the minority? Seems like that’s gonna be a fun little twist in your little utopia, won’t it?
not sure what u talking about.
there hasn’t been mass ethnic deportations after about ww2 - which I think we can all agree was a very special unique case.
besides - supposed democracy of the time were putting peaceful japanese into concentration camps and segregating negros - so how are they better.
How was the housing? Did some people get a nicer house than others? How was that decided? If you had another kid and needed more space what would happen? I generally have no idea. I saw pics of some crappy apartments but I would love to know what it was really like for most people
How was decided? By number of children. 1 kid - 2br apartment, 2 kids - 3 bedroom apartment.
There was also wait list.
No - I wouldn’t say housing was different based on income - actually 100% sure it wasnt.
I find that USSR housing much better than 2x4 framed house I live in now in US. Cmon- cant beat 3m ceilings - in US its reservd for the rich.
One thing they really fucked up planning is parking - noone knew everyone would drive a car in 30 years
So why are u guys so against communism?
This problem was solved in ussr.
Ah yes, the USSR, a state which considered homosexuality to be a mental disorder and a sign of fascism, and then subsequently criminalized it, arrested queer people, and sentenced them to years in labour camps.
People oppose communism because we don’t trust authoritarians to make good decisions, and when they inevitably make bad decisions, the effects are disastrous and widespread due to how centralized the system is.
It’s unrelated to Ussr.
Many countries criminalized it and still do including US until very very recent times.
Nothing to do with communism vs capitalism.
Tankie, you could discredit the USSR for not being accepting and still be a good faith communist but nevermind
I don’t really care.
I think ussr had a lot of unique positive things.
Like putting Jews and Red Army POWs let out of Nazi camps in gulags. Very positive.
that’s not a real thing.
you wouldn’t be able to find an example of systematic jews transfers to gulags - search if u wanna.
kidding me - many people in ussr leadership were jews
Ok:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exile_of_Jews_in_the_Soviet_interior_during_World_War_II
https://www.jewishhistory.org/jews-in-the-gulag-after-wwii/
https://kennedy.byu.edu/jewish-life-and-anti-semitism-in-the-soviet-gulag-2024-02-14
https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/distributed/C/bo246026242.html
https://academic.oup.com/hgs/article-abstract/34/3/393/6020133
https://ukrainianjewishencounter.org/en/ukrainian-jewish-political-prisoners-gulag-toward-solidarity-mutual-understanding-cooperation/
Let me guess- those are all Jewish lies. Just like the Holocaust.
I’m sure these survivors telling their stories are the biggest liars of all: https://www.jstor.org/stable/23531219
Just can’t trust those shifty Jews, can ya?
tbh i’m 100% confident if this even happened - it was on small scale and not an official ussr policy.
as in - if some polaks got arrested after 1939 - those were based on class and stance towards ussr. some of those surely were jewish. boohoo.
there is not a single official document u can find where jews would have been specifically ordered to be deported.
I get, you’re saying the benefits of communism are well worth the sacrifice of a few minorities. That’s an argument you can make, but who decides who the minority is? What if they decide that you’re the minority? Seems like that’s gonna be a fun little twist in your little utopia, won’t it?
not sure what u talking about.
there hasn’t been mass ethnic deportations after about ww2 - which I think we can all agree was a very special unique case.
besides - supposed democracy of the time were putting peaceful japanese into concentration camps and segregating negros - so how are they better.
A nation that, for most of its existence, did not successfully produce toilet paper.
I always had toilet paper growing up in ussr.
Not sure where u got that from.
But what it did have - you could walk everywhere - any lake, any shore any seafront is public. Medical system for everyone. Housing for everyone.
Yes - light industry had issues.
How was the housing? Did some people get a nicer house than others? How was that decided? If you had another kid and needed more space what would happen? I generally have no idea. I saw pics of some crappy apartments but I would love to know what it was really like for most people
How was decided? By number of children. 1 kid - 2br apartment, 2 kids - 3 bedroom apartment.
There was also wait list. No - I wouldn’t say housing was different based on income - actually 100% sure it wasnt.
I find that USSR housing much better than 2x4 framed house I live in now in US. Cmon- cant beat 3m ceilings - in US its reservd for the rich.
One thing they really fucked up planning is parking - noone knew everyone would drive a car in 30 years
Is there some correlation between communism and toilet paper?
It’s like food in Soviet Russia
Not everybody gets it
If you can’t eat, you can’t get the shits…silver linings.
Yeah dead people don’t shit
Communism is just a different sort of fucked up. It’s just as bad for people in its own way.
Lol no