• ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    And I assume you have a plan to get rid of over 600,000,000 guns in civilian hands without a registry to know where/who has what? Pandora’s box has been opened, there will never not be guns, all we can do is stop people from buying new ones (which would certainly help disarm POC and women who are the two fastest growing groups of gun owners for damn near half a decade by now, if your goal is to make it so mostly white men have guns that could work I suppose.)

    Japan proves guns aren’t a prerequisite for suicide. In fact really only men do it with guns here, women opt for intentional poisoning statistically and since they’re your sole focus it won’t help much there.

    19k killed, 100k defensive gun uses/yr (Harvard). 100k > 19k.

    100k > 27k. 19,651+27,032=46,674, 46,674 < 100,000

    Blah blah blah tldr.

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      And now we get the the dumbest fucking argument of all. There are so many guns how are you going to regulate them. It’s like if you have a big problem suddenly you can’t do anything about it.

      If there was ever a reason to regulate something it is when it has become a big problem.

      Then you bring up the next stupidest argument. The fact that Japan has no guns but high suicide. Guess what Sherlock? Their suicide rates would be much higher if they had a lot of them.

      This has all been discussed and proven thousands of times by empirical evidence. I already told you no matter what I say or evidence I present you won’t care.

      If your entire family were killed by gun violence and ten million people died tomorrow from preventable gun death you would not care. There is no limit to your lack of humanity. Nothing is going to change your mind.

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        Tbh with their cultural aversion to firearms in favor of blades, I doubt this claim as well. In any case they’re doing just fine killing themselves without them.

        I wouldn’t blame the guns, I’d blame the murderer. If your entire family was hacked up tomorrow would you blame Cutco? Have fun with that.

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          You are just talking out your ass about Japan. I will tell you something that actually makes sense. Japan eradicated gun crime.

          https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38365729

          As always you seem to be stuck on the stupid path bringing up a country that proves regulation is effective.

          Japan has one of the lowest rates of gun crime in the world. In 2014 there were just six gun deaths, compared to 33,599 in the US

          I told you nothing would change your mind, not fucking the truth, and certainly not reality.

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            Tell that to Shinzo Abe.

            Japan as a whole is largely uninterested in firearms: Graduating police officers most often choose judo and kendo over firearms training. The country’s culture doesn’t have a history of widespread gun ownership by citizens. Instead, historic influence have made weapons to be seen as “the mark of the rulers, not the ruled”.[3]

            Oh but yeah no clue why I would say they culturally prefer blades. Is there any historical context to the “mark of the rulers” bit I wonder?

            Gun and sword control started in Japan as early as the late 16th century under Toyotomi Hideyoshi in order to disarm peasants and control uprisings.

            Oh. Well that’s cool.

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              I am supposed to believe you suddenly care about human life now.

              Ok I will bite, let’s talk children who have died of gun violence in less than a year in the US.

              https://casten.house.gov/media/press-releases/casten-reads-names-665-children-under-11-killed-guns-so-far-year-unable-finish

              In his speech, Casten said:

              "Madam Speaker, I wanted to take a moment to read the names of the children under 10 years old in America who’v been killed by guns so far this year.

              "Aiden, age 8

              "Alice, a newborn

              "Alyssa, age 6

              "Amare, age 10

              "Andres, age 9

              “Antonio, who went by the nick-name “ESPN”” age 7,

              "Arbrie, age 8

              "Ariah, age 7

              "Arlene, age 9

              "Asa, age 8

              "Ashton, age 2

              "Autumn, age 3

              "Avere, 3

              "Bella, 4 and her sister Brixx who was a newborn

              "Bridger, age 10

              "Bryson, 3

              "Caleb, 5

              "Cayden, 10

              "Charlie, 10

              "Charlotte, 9

              "Charvez , 2

              "Chloe, 7

              "Clesslynn, 2

              "I realize you’re gaveling me out.

              "There are over 600 names on this list—I

              Don’t even pretend you care about Shinzo when you could care less about millions of Americans.

              Guess how many gun related child deaths this year in Japan. Fucking zero.

              It is like your own pet holocaust we all have to live with just so you can LARP about killing people.

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                I’m not claiming “America eradicated gun crime” like you are for japan lol. I’m claiming that “just because someone owns guns doesn’t mean they’ll shoot theirwifechildrenyaddayadda.”

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                  No you were claiming that you need a light on your gun so you can tell whether or not they are the person your intending to kill. I am sure they are the bad guy in your fantasy or whatever bullshit goes through your head.

                  Clearly there are some people who could handle firearms and use them responsibly. You are just not one of them.

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                    If you’re questioning “burglar or wife” because “dark?” Yeah, “flashlight” solves that real fast. You don’t think a flashlight will help you see whether someone is your wife or a burglar? Your wife look like a lot of burglars or something? Why are you so against gun safety lmao? It’s really strange tbh.

                    No u lol, you’re the one advocating against best safety practices for cool alpha internet points, seek help.