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Microsoft has officially announced its intent to move security measures out of the kernel, following the Crowdstrike disaster a few short months ago. The removal of kernel access for security solutions would likely revolutionise running Windows games on the Steam Deck and other Linux systems.

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    2 months ago

    game developers and publishers are hesitant to enable Linux compatibility,

    And I am hesitant to spend money on their games.

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      running linux is a great way to automatically filter out most of the shit games, if it won’t even run in proton then you generally have to be doing some bullshit with the code and thus aren’t worth my time and certainly not my money.

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          VR games work just fine in proton, as long as you’re on Vive or Index.

          It’s the the headsets that don’t support linux, unfortunately.

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            I’ve never got my Vive to work well in Linux, even though I’m using X which supposedly still is better for gaming that Wayland.

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              There are a lot of kinks around VR on linux. Wayland has been better in my experience, but I still can’t believe SteamVR on linux just doesn’t have power management for the base stations implemented. Like, it works, there’s a fucking python script that can do it! But not via SteamVR.

              I use an app on my phone to turn my base stations on and off.

              Here’s hoping the Deck and whatever Deckard turns out to be means Valve is in the process of improving the situation.

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            We are small but still exists…

            Once there is a way to properly play VR games without too much configuration, I will jump back to Linux. But for now, Windows 11 IOT edition is not too bad. Specifically the IOT edition without all the telemarketing and CoPilot crap.

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    I’m okay with that. I don’t want some program I don’t control having access to the kernel of my system.

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    Could very well be possible. Apple did the same thing with macOS Catalina in 2019. Since then, there are no kernel extensions, meaning no third-party code running at kernel level. This greatly improves the security of macOS, and other desktop operating systems should do the same.

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    It’s probably going to move to hardware attestation similar to what Android and iOS are doing. This may or may not be a good thing.

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      Yeah, idk why everyone seems to legitimately think devs are going to just quietly revert back to usermode anticheat. I could see Riot patching an actual root kit before that happens.

      But yeah, more likely MSFT will lobby for hw that is more annoying than secure boot or TPM to get working with linux, every windows app after that point will rely on it “because turnkey security!”, and if you ever manage to disable it none of those apps will work on your machine in any OS (if they even worked through proton at all).

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        Its so liberating to just accept this mindset everyhwhere. I personally feel so comfortable voting with my wallet I don’t even feel a sense of missing out anymore.

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          💯 There’s more software, games, movies, music, people, etc than I’ll ever be able to interact with in my entire life. So much good to be found when you don’t waste time on all the extractive, disrespectful, enshittified BS. Edit: dropped word.

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        i agree and i don’t buy unless it runs on linux now… but my steam library was purchased when i was on microshit’s dicks.

        but sometimes we got to take the L and move on. I just won’t buy EA trash going forward.

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    Am I misremembering to think Genshin Impact was a cause of one of these major security disasters?

    It wasn’t even people who installed Genshin that were victims - it was like, Microsoft signed a driver made by Mihoyo to scan for cheat apps. But mihoyo, being a game company with a rapid release cycle and imperfect security, had a vulnerability in the driver. So, malware authors could include that driver in their packages to elevate access on Windows installs even when no one had any idea what a Genshin is.

    Not quite the same thing as Crowdstrike I guess though.

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    2 months ago

    As a long time cs gamer I approve of this change but I warn ye regardless that there is no alternative or viable solution to actually stop cheaters right now.

    And if you’ve only heard stories and don’t really experience cs (vac kind of does nothing)

    Ive kept track of players for months/years who have not been banned. I find it strange that they eventually do get banned several months after cheating. It took one account nearly 2 years to get banned.

    I hope that a clever solution comes out, a man can dream right ?

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      well… you see back in my day we had cool bros in “clans” running their servers mostly paying for it themselves with some donations. admins would boot bad faith actors as needed.

      then something happened to that model… and here we are now… FPS genre has no been the same IMHO