this is the mainstream view on the far-left
this is the mainstream view on the far-left
no actually, since the conversation is explicitly about conspiracy to commit murder, arguing that any belief in enforcing participation in society constitutes that is explicitly saying that having laws automatically means killing people
you dont actually get to say ‘violence’ instead of ‘murder’ in a conversation about murder, and then pretend that you arent talking about murder
unless this is you admitting that communism is not actually a conspiracy to commit murder, in which case cool i agree!
being forced to participate in society is called following the laws of the country youre in
am i correctly understanding that you believe that enforcing the law automatically necessitates killing people? thats a pretty scary thing to believe, and in no way indicative of any particular ideology im sure
its also false, considering the continued existence of countries that have abolished the death penalty entirely
on a side note, can you explain why you moved the goal posts from ‘communists want to kill everyone’ to ‘well maybe not all of them but the ones that dont will never succeed’ to ‘well having laws means killing people’
If kumbaya is their plan, well, it isn’t going to succeed.
it sure seems like this is less about communists believing that violence is necessary, and more about you believing violence is necessary
actually, you distinctly said ‘every communist ive pushed far enough’, not ‘literally every communist’
im not a communist and my explaining how violence is not a literal part of the definition for communism as it is with fascism is not proselytism
is that what you were doing? trying to get folks to join your cult of fascism?
because regardless or anecdotes, a communist ideal does not by definition necessitate a conspiracy to commit murder
even if not a single pacifist communist existed, and they do, itd still be totally possible to be both a pacifist and a communist
in contrast, violence is a fundamental part of what makes fascism fascism. a fascist party will never be pacifistic, because it would no longer be fascist
no, conspiracy to commit murder is not an inherent aspect of communist ideology in the same way that it is integral to fascism
i didnt voice any opinion on what the extreme or far left are, so i imagine you either didnt understand my comment or are being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian