• RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
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        24 days ago

        Right but between recognizing Palestine or not recognizing Palestine, wouldn’t recognizing it be better?

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          If it stops the genocide, sure. If it distracts everyone from the fact that they’re still supporting a nation doing genocide then nah.

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              It’s been one day. So far it’s done nothing. I’m gonna give it maybe a month, but if these countries’ aid to Israel doesn’t stop by then, I’ll know it was an empty gesture. I’m not going to consider this a job well done unless they give me reason to. I’m not really in the habit of giving nations the benefit of the doubt.

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                I was more wondering why people don’t consider this better than nothing. Imo this is at worst an empty gesture.

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                  From my first comment:

                  If it distracts everyone from the fact that they’re still supporting a nation doing genocide then nah.

                  If it’s a distraction or an attempt to placate people and get them to stop caring about genocide in Palestine, it’s worse than an empty gesture.

                  I want to believe it’s better than nothing, but I won’t let myself do that until these countries prove themselves.

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      They would prefer an end to the genocide. Telling someone “they exist” doesn’t stop their execution.

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          They are mutually exclusive. If someone is telling you to stop someone stabbing them, if you’re response is to finish their passport application that doesn’t solve much

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      I think people are glossing over the underlying act of defiance that this recognition also implies. These countries are also saying ‘we are starting to break the lockstep with the US’ and that is just as significant.

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      The issue is that its the absolute minimum they could do, while still selling them weapons and running recon. I mean, its not that hard. We all know what genocide looks like. We have parades every year for the men and women who fought against those who would and did do genocide on others. But for reason we are sitting and watching it happen again, and again, and being like “nah, it’ll be fine.”. But 25000 dead kids later, and its not fine. Its pretty fucking far from fine.

      And all of this for what? So some utter cunt in Israel and his nazi cronies can hold on to power? We are supposed to be better than that. We might not be perfect, we might have our own issues that need serious work. But propping up a fucking nazi regime, while actively does genocide in full view of the world?

      Absolute zero balls on any world leaders today. There all absolute pussies, who cant even say the simple truth we all know. Disgusting.