They are citing ONS figures of excess deaths as proof the vaccines are killing people. I tried to explain that not being able to get a doctor’s appointment, staying home and getting fat, etc explain the figures (official sources have said it too) but they said it’s “gaslighting” and then said their family doctor wouldn’t get the vaccine.

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    9 hours ago

    They likely won’t get better. And that’s why you cut ties. You can’t change the way they view the world. They have to come to that on their own.

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      It’s to my benefit if other people take the time to fix their broken and bigoted family members. I wouldn’t recommend someone sever times. Just because you have had experience with stubborn people who can’t change doesn’t mean most people are like that.

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        I haven’t tried to unbreak anyone because I haven’t known any consiratorial thinkers. But I do listen to the QAA podcast, which studies the effects of conspiratorial thinking and interviews researchers and authors and it’s pretty clear that only the conspiracy nutter can pull themselves out. No amount of logic can turn them around and it’s a form of self-harm to try.